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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM
I decided to make a new post because there are over a hundred views in the previous post and it's getting crowded. Thanks to Shannow and all the debating there - I loved all the bickering.


I love how the post had DEFINITIVE in all caps, but it's full of hemming and hawing and maybes and arguing.

Let me start off by saying that Brandon seems like a nice guy, but he shoots from the hip. He's answering things incorrectly and causing all manner of scandals. If we didn't know better about Cyndane, we'd all be in a fuss, but he's making major errors in his answers. I also find it very unlikely that the guy knows the strength tree to any reasonable degree. I'm sure he knows some landmarks, but his own words show that he's 'reasonably' this 'pretty sure' that. It's all very vague and unreliable information. It would actually be better to get a RAFO than to get wrong information based on guessing.


He may have access to things we do not, but when he is unable to look at that information, he's a lot like the rest of us. A fan who is fallible and prone to error when trying to explain minutiae from memory. I have a theory about his "little detail from books 4-6" that addresses this in part as well.

As for the OP rankings, I'm not sold on anybody's list so far.


I agree, because mostly it seems that the list has changed as the series went on, sometimes as the wind blows. Nynaeve went from "Holy crap" to "LOL so last year" back to "OMG didn't you know shes badass?".

I don't ever remember reading about the two Nynaeve strength lists (before\after or whatever) as a comment from RJ on wotmania, but I think that illustrates how other relative strengths may have changed.

I'm still harping on it but I hate that the whole Dexterity side seems to have gone by the wayside.
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 2047 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 1054 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 1039 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 1048 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 955 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 1088 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 936 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 1002 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 971 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1123 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1118 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1198 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 1076 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1141 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 500 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 1038 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 1035 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 929 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 1065 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1600 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 970 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 949 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 972 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1087 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 950 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 972 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 934 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 961 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 1042 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 990 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 975 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 1062 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1128 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 889 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 651 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 506 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 1060 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 1071 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 916 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 538 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 563 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 1038 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 916 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 966 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 1068 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 471 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 899 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1086 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 1090 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 1199 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 1222 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 956 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1398 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 897 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 876 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1133 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 443 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 992 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 896 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 943 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 1014 Views
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