The Oaths are pretty literal-minded. As long as
The wording of the Black Ajah oath though... it's ridiculous. Why, why, why would an organization that is steeped in twisting words and finding loopholes leave something like that open!?
The wording of the Black Ajah oath though... it's ridiculous. Why, why, why would an organization that is steeped in twisting words and finding loopholes leave something like that open!?
Is it possible that you can't use an object of the One Power (Oath Road) to completely foreswear light allegiance? It could be a safety mechanism programmed into it at the time it was created, when the DO has already started recruiting. The only way to make it work would be to leave an opening for a return to the light, trusting to greed and ambition to ensure that most don't foreswear it.
On the other hand, there is a strong indication that that oath used some other binding mechanism? Anyone found it curious that Ingtar (tGH) was able to also be redeemed "in the hour of his death"? Could there be a way to enforce it also on non-channelers? I think it's the only way (other than balefire) for reformed darkfriends to avoid having DO snatch their soul when you die.
You make a good point about the timing of Ingtar's redemption. I do not think it is a coincidence.
However, why do you think the DO cannot snatch the souls of those who betray him (even in the last hour)?
The BA Hunters and their methodology (tGS spoilers)
- 19/11/2009 02:16:20 PM
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It probably has to be a direct betrayal
- 19/11/2009 02:53:19 PM
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Yup, totally.
- 19/11/2009 05:45:45 PM
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Possible reason for the loophole
- 19/11/2009 06:04:12 PM
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Re: Possible reason for the loophole
- 19/11/2009 06:36:21 PM
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Could be in that moment
- 19/11/2009 09:04:59 PM
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But the DO had Rand's mother - don't think she was a DF *NM*
- 21/11/2009 06:43:17 PM
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Could have been an illusion. We really know nothing of what happens to souls
- 24/12/2009 08:14:05 PM
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Re: It probably has to be a direct betrayal
- 19/11/2009 06:41:03 PM
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But wasn't Talene *forced* to do that?
- 19/11/2009 08:05:48 PM
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That and any oath on the Oath Rod relies very heavily on the swearer's interpretation of the oath.
- 19/11/2009 07:30:55 PM
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*NM*
*NM*
True. There's a scene where Cadsuane is told about Aiel in the city and she says "I hadn't noticed."
- 19/11/2009 08:21:52 PM
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Unless she's Black Ajah 
Just kidding.
- 19/11/2009 08:59:49 PM
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Just kidding.
- 19/11/2009 08:59:49 PM
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Maybe that's the real reason she's now taken to wearing a black hood! 
*NM*
- 19/11/2009 09:02:06 PM
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*NM*
- 19/11/2009 09:02:06 PM
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There's reason to believe that if any AS removed the Oaths from themselves, it's Cadsuane. *NM*
- 01/12/2009 04:44:00 PM
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Bigger loophole
- 21/11/2009 06:46:42 PM
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True, but again perspective seems to determine what is a lie and what isn't
- 21/11/2009 10:19:19 PM
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