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I didn't say that Sidious Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM
Of course at least some of them are hold by the Empress or Tuon, because as the rulers of Seanchan they naturally have the privileges to get these damane. They also have e.g. the best fighters and the most powerful ter'angreal. Since a super strong damane would be very helpful for Tuon on her war, it furthermore simply makes sense that Sera is one of these super strong. Therefore any list ignoring Sera is most likely wrong, IMO.

But as said, maybe BS will clarify it.


Alivia is the strongest damane we know. There may or may not be a damane or some damane who equal or exceed her. We might never know.

Tuon said that Sera was the strongest of her damane - out of six in attendance. To make the leap that Sera is high Forsaken strength is illogical IMO. Egwene was special enough that they wanted to present her to the Empress for her abilities. It doesn't mean she's Lanfear.
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1732 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 766 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 719 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 725 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 675 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 737 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 658 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 664 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 658 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 775 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 781 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 852 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 750 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 792 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 338 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 714 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 659 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 629 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 747 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1269 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 613 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 659 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 648 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 751 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 630 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 582 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 616 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 631 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 701 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 662 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 636 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 714 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 776 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 588 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 435 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 351 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 741 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 747 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 611 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 385 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 388 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 734 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 617 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 624 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 755 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 322 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 599 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 755 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 741 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 770 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 849 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 657 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1075 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 622 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 599 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 829 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 302 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 629 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 589 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 603 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 709 Views
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