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So? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM
.....as Rand figured out in tGS, "killing" without balefire is meaningless.

She was still prevented from capturing or killing Rand.

Anyway, if the actions of the characters are to be determined on the basis of new knowledge, Rand has been the most useless. As we know, the Dark One is the threat, and the Forsaken are only his pawns. Exactly what has Rand done to defeat the DO?
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1327 Views
They are politicians at heart... everynametaken - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 893 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 448 Views
Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago? trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM 662 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* ajfurst - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 315 Views
What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM 322 Views
Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM* ajfurst - 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM 318 Views
She is the Heir, not the daughter of the heir! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 05:24:24 PM 333 Views
As we found out, in painfully slow manner, she was neither! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:31:02 PM 314 Views
Short answer: nope. Marshall - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 841 Views
Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM 650 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 660 Views
rather.. urizen - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 779 Views
I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM 724 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. Onarishma - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 689 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 678 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine Onarishma - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 597 Views
But then.. urizen - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 713 Views
Kind of Sort of fairfax - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 651 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... Onarishma - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 613 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims redhand - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2049 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1421 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 680 Views
Always help or contribute.....never do or lead..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM 623 Views
if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM* Onarishma - 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM 365 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 601 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 829 Views
You're asking the wrong question HyogaRott - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 664 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 628 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 389 Views
Scored using your words NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 763 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 613 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* Marshall - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 308 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 372 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 646 Views
They reduced her in power. TheCrownless - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 572 Views
Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM 654 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 600 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 543 Views
Have you read the books? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 592 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 592 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 630 Views
Oh dear! NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 557 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 521 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 717 Views
This is silly guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 562 Views
There is no misrepresentation NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 578 Views
The point I made is guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 562 Views
Are we speaking english? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 770 Views
Not really BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 648 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 700 Views
OK NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 631 Views
No idea BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 607 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 735 Views
Well what do you think of BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 843 Views
And another point NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 541 Views
For the sake of argument, though BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 605 Views
OK fair enough NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 590 Views
rAndy aL - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 711 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 559 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 283 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 581 Views
Yeah right... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 538 Views
Yes, seriously rAndy aL - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 642 Views
It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends. BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM 586 Views
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