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And what if she had still been here? she wondered. With the necklace off, and maybe whoever freed her? Shivering, she withdrew slowly. Moghedien had good reason to dislike her, very personally, and the only sister who could match one of the Forsaken alone, when she could channel at all, was in Ebou Dar. Moghedien
could have killed Eg-wene without anyone noticing; even had a sister felt her channel, there would be nothing remarkable in that. Worse, Moghedien might not have killed her. And no one would have known anything until they found the pair of them gone.


She clearly mentions the person who freed Moggy, and wonders what would have happened if Moggy surprised her.

Yes, it seems, she thinks she cannot match any of the Foresaken alone. But then she says this, too:

For that matter, what good would it have done? It had to be one of the Forsaken. Do you really think Faolain and Theodrin together could have stopped him? I'm not sure I could have, even linked
with Romanda and Lelaine."


If Egwene thinks there's a chance for her, linked with Romanda and Lelaine, to stop one of the Male Forsaken and Moggy, she is, if anything, indicating her strength. She has faced Lanfear, and felt Moghedien's power, after all. It isn't as if her estimation is unrealistic!

I think what she's acknowledging that she is weaker than Moggy, and could have been surprised by her. I doubt that means Egwene cannot fight Moghedien.

RJ said Elayne, Egwene and Aviendha are but a step below the Forsaken.

And remember, Nynaeve in aCoS couldn't shield Elayne, and Elayne wasn't at her full strength either.

Like with Nynaeve, I can only say that it is folly to simply write of the strength of the chief female protagonist. She may not be the strongest, but Egwene is just below Forsaken strength. I don't doubt she can give a good fight to some of them at least.
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Thanks to Sanderson, we now have a DEFINITIVE female Forsaken strength list... - 18/11/2009 05:56:58 PM 2237 Views
Sounds good - 18/11/2009 06:08:15 PM 1125 Views
Re: Sounds good - 18/11/2009 06:12:53 PM 1198 Views
Re: Someryn - 18/11/2009 06:20:44 PM 1166 Views
I acknowledge that possibility... - 18/11/2009 06:24:30 PM 1068 Views
Someryn implies that Graendal is stronger. - 19/11/2009 01:51:31 PM 1173 Views
Excellent point...I'd forgotten about that... - 19/11/2009 02:00:30 PM 1088 Views
As I understand it... - 18/11/2009 06:23:26 PM 1173 Views
My view is that the new list is just a revised one, after RJ changed his mind on some things... - 18/11/2009 06:28:53 PM 1218 Views
Agreed. - 18/11/2009 06:31:22 PM 1032 Views
I suppose that's possible. *NM* - 18/11/2009 06:31:42 PM 831 Views
I agree with this interpretation on the new vs. old list - 18/11/2009 07:13:02 PM 1114 Views
Re: Sounds good - 18/11/2009 07:11:17 PM 1016 Views
Also, a couple more questions, if I may... - 18/11/2009 07:18:50 PM 1023 Views
Re: Also, a couple more questions, if I may... - 18/11/2009 07:23:45 PM 1045 Views
One problem... - 18/11/2009 06:10:06 PM 1220 Views
No... - 18/11/2009 06:14:48 PM 1123 Views
That's not a problem. - 18/11/2009 06:31:37 PM 1070 Views
Why on earth would there be multiple restrictions on Cyndane's strength? - 18/11/2009 06:47:56 PM 971 Views
Sorry buddy - 18/11/2009 07:36:00 PM 1097 Views
Re: Sorry buddy - 18/11/2009 09:49:01 PM 1014 Views
But Nynaeve and Mogheiden were of equal strength - 18/11/2009 06:15:52 PM 1255 Views
Nynaeve matched Moghedien when Nynaeve was not close to her full potential yet... - 18/11/2009 06:19:07 PM 1304 Views
I agree...and I have a question regarding Moghedien. - 18/11/2009 06:30:07 PM 1102 Views
Cyndane has to be above Graendal. *NM* - 18/11/2009 06:33:16 PM 607 Views
You're right. I'll post new list below. *NM* - 18/11/2009 06:39:36 PM 625 Views
Was she? Nyn was mid20s and a wilder, I thought she had reached full strength - 18/11/2009 08:00:24 PM 1158 Views
She really hasn't had that much time channelling though. - 18/11/2009 08:07:31 PM 816 Views
Wilders rarely reach their full potential if they're blocked. *NM* - 18/11/2009 08:43:30 PM 649 Views
I know the Cleansing forced her a bit. - 18/11/2009 08:44:59 PM 1097 Views
That's been said before- anyone know where it says that in the text? - 19/11/2009 05:53:50 AM 880 Views
More or less agreed. I was right about Nynaeve! - 18/11/2009 06:29:27 PM 1025 Views
IMO... - 18/11/2009 06:37:19 PM 1140 Views
I don't know... - 18/11/2009 06:56:10 PM 1011 Views
I still think Alivia is below Lanfear's strength level... - 18/11/2009 06:59:01 PM 1313 Views
That just doesn't make sense... - 18/11/2009 07:02:17 PM 1136 Views
I agree that Lanfear and Alivia are tied. *NM* - 18/11/2009 07:06:19 PM 633 Views
All of my instincts indeed argue that 4 of the Forsaken CANNOT be below Nynaeve, but... - 18/11/2009 07:06:25 PM 975 Views
But why doesn't it make sense? - 18/11/2009 08:47:42 PM 863 Views
I don't think... - 18/11/2009 07:08:09 PM 1196 Views
Damane never recieve special status... - 18/11/2009 08:52:32 PM 1007 Views
Good point... - 18/11/2009 09:00:51 PM 1029 Views
Thing is... - 18/11/2009 09:10:45 PM 1079 Views
My point was... - 18/11/2009 09:05:28 PM 1069 Views
I agree *NM* - 18/11/2009 09:10:46 PM 597 Views
If Tuon had the strongest... - 18/11/2009 09:12:22 PM 986 Views
Sera must be stronger... - 18/11/2009 09:25:00 PM 976 Views
There's no reason to be certain about it... - 18/11/2009 09:28:26 PM 1023 Views
Well, the Bloodknives are precisely Tuon's tools - 18/11/2009 09:32:46 PM 977 Views
There are SIX women stronger than Nynaeve, and at least five are accounted for... - 18/11/2009 09:46:28 PM 1038 Views
There are six stronger women named on the list - 19/11/2009 11:40:52 AM 1040 Views
I'm not ignoring Sera! - 19/11/2009 06:13:43 PM 901 Views
You misunderstand me... - 19/11/2009 06:16:31 PM 981 Views
I doesn't make "sense". Let's leave it... - 19/11/2009 06:19:52 PM 980 Views
But Alivia (while strong in the OP) is an old fraile lady on her deathbed. *NM* - 18/11/2009 09:41:33 PM 631 Views
Pardon? Don't understand this really. *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:45:21 AM 472 Views
You keep saying Alivia was "a common damane" - 28/11/2009 08:58:42 PM 836 Views
You were right about Nynaeve, I was right about Graendal! Well done! - 18/11/2009 06:37:42 PM 1117 Views
Yes. This is one WoT debate coming to a close... - 18/11/2009 06:54:06 PM 884 Views
I have one problem with your list. - 18/11/2009 06:36:02 PM 1076 Views
RJ said the Forsaken ALWAYS overrate themselves... - 18/11/2009 06:54:45 PM 939 Views
Mesaana is cold and calculating. - 18/11/2009 07:03:49 PM 990 Views
I'm sorry, but I find it mindblowing that you find this mindblowing. - 18/11/2009 06:36:37 PM 1020 Views
Some of us have been debating this for 5 years on Wotmania... - 18/11/2009 06:57:08 PM 1084 Views
I think it goes like this: - 18/11/2009 06:53:07 PM 1029 Views
There is a side effect to all of this rearrangement...we may have to rethink the wonder girls. - 18/11/2009 07:04:17 PM 1078 Views
We'll have to re-read the sections where Moghedien is captured. - 18/11/2009 07:08:07 PM 988 Views
Damn. That's a thought I definitely DON'T relish. Thankfully... - 18/11/2009 07:09:18 PM 1026 Views
Where does she say this? - 18/11/2009 08:54:39 PM 1038 Views
No, she explicitly refers to herself vs Moghedien... - 18/11/2009 09:01:53 PM 1037 Views
Here are the quotes... - 18/11/2009 09:24:24 PM 1050 Views
Oh come on. You're totally twisting that passage to suit your argument... - 18/11/2009 09:54:56 PM 944 Views
I could say the same... - 18/11/2009 10:50:44 PM 954 Views
So let me get this straight... - 19/11/2009 06:44:03 AM 966 Views
No... - 19/11/2009 07:37:29 AM 1028 Views
Look at it this way... - 19/11/2009 10:23:06 AM 997 Views
Dude, there were other quotes... - 19/11/2009 06:15:32 PM 906 Views
What about Sammael? The debate about Sammael and Rahvin has been decided now too. - 18/11/2009 08:03:35 PM 1070 Views
Totally disagree... - 18/11/2009 08:08:34 PM 1107 Views
Re: Totally disagree... - 18/11/2009 08:22:07 PM 999 Views
Males likely go like this... - 18/11/2009 08:27:27 PM 970 Views
Dude, Rand is scared of Graendal... - 18/11/2009 09:05:28 PM 970 Views
Disagree... - 18/11/2009 09:09:45 PM 1073 Views
Disagree back... for the last time though... - 18/11/2009 09:39:25 PM 923 Views
About the top 6... - 18/11/2009 10:08:37 PM 1002 Views
And One Power Battles turn political on a regualr basis, do they? - 18/11/2009 10:54:35 PM 1061 Views
That's ridiculous... - 19/11/2009 07:19:08 AM 940 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... - 19/11/2009 08:08:14 AM 986 Views
Well... - 19/11/2009 10:29:45 AM 990 Views
This is getting idiotic... - 19/11/2009 06:19:08 PM 983 Views
Re: Dude, Rand is scared of Graendal... - 10/12/2010 07:31:18 PM 981 Views
If Rahvin were stronger... - 18/11/2009 08:59:32 PM 951 Views
Disagreement - 19/11/2009 01:39:49 AM 1081 Views
Some more from Brandon... - 19/11/2009 04:29:41 AM 985 Views
So we're back where we started? - 19/11/2009 04:56:36 AM 790 Views
Re: So we're back where we started? - 19/11/2009 05:18:15 AM 1073 Views
Someone must ask him: Is Cyndane one of the 6 above Nynaeve. - 19/11/2009 05:35:10 AM 935 Views
My opinion: down this path lies insanity. - 19/11/2009 02:53:59 PM 1018 Views
Thoughts - 19/11/2009 04:55:09 AM 1087 Views

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