My theories of what Brandon could have meant about Cyndane.
Logain Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 11:25:30 PM
I have a few thoughts and theories on what the following quote could mean:
Q: Where did Cyndane’s new body come from?
A: Where have any of the new bodies come from? He then mentioned that it’s not confirmed who Cyndane is, though he didn’t refute me when we all said that it’s pretty certain.
I asked about her strength in the OP – Brandon says she’s very, very weak. This surprised me since I didn’t think she was that weak.
Perhaps there is a warding someone can place on themselves to deceive other females of the channeler's true one power strength. We see channelers completely eliminating the ability to sense in other women the ability to channel. So my first theory is that perhaps there is a way to make yourself look stronger than you really are. Maybe Cyndane deceived Graendal with her strength in the OP with some type of ward? I admit I'm guessing here, but it is possible.
Second, Cyndane is still strong enough to travel, on her own, because we see her do that when she goes to the cleansing. So there seems to be an immediate problem with Brandon's wording. NOBODY who can travel on their own is described as "very very weak." But then, maybe there is an explanation. In tGS we learn that Siuan's new self cannot open a gateway, but with a sa'angreal she can.
The only conclusion I can come up with is that Cyndane has an angreal or sa'angreal and uses it to travel, just as Siuan uses Vora's sa'angreal to gate to the rebel camp from the white tower in tGS. In fact, the last we saw Lanfear, we know for a fact that she and Moiraine were fighting over an angreal or sa'angreal as they fell through the gateway. Maybe Cyndane still has the angreal? If so, that would explain everything. Cyndane is weak, but with the angreal, she appears stronger than Graendal.
I've had my own personal theory for a long time that Mierin (Lanfear's name before she turned to the shadow) was not very strong originally. I have always guessed that at some point Lanfear went through the doorway where you get 3 gifts and one of those gifts she asked for was to be the most powerful channeler in the world. I think she got it, but now that she died that promise no longer is binding and she is back to her normal strength. Either that, or perhaps the DO somehow gave Lanfear extra strength for joining the shadow and in reward for boring the hole in the DO's prison.
Of course, the most likely thing is what everyone else has said, and that BS made a mistake. But he seemed very certain from how you're describing things. My theories up above could explain why Cyndane is weak. Maybe even combine one or more of my ideas above?
Q: Where did Cyndane’s new body come from?
A: Where have any of the new bodies come from? He then mentioned that it’s not confirmed who Cyndane is, though he didn’t refute me when we all said that it’s pretty certain.
I asked about her strength in the OP – Brandon says she’s very, very weak. This surprised me since I didn’t think she was that weak.
Perhaps there is a warding someone can place on themselves to deceive other females of the channeler's true one power strength. We see channelers completely eliminating the ability to sense in other women the ability to channel. So my first theory is that perhaps there is a way to make yourself look stronger than you really are. Maybe Cyndane deceived Graendal with her strength in the OP with some type of ward? I admit I'm guessing here, but it is possible.
Second, Cyndane is still strong enough to travel, on her own, because we see her do that when she goes to the cleansing. So there seems to be an immediate problem with Brandon's wording. NOBODY who can travel on their own is described as "very very weak." But then, maybe there is an explanation. In tGS we learn that Siuan's new self cannot open a gateway, but with a sa'angreal she can.
The only conclusion I can come up with is that Cyndane has an angreal or sa'angreal and uses it to travel, just as Siuan uses Vora's sa'angreal to gate to the rebel camp from the white tower in tGS. In fact, the last we saw Lanfear, we know for a fact that she and Moiraine were fighting over an angreal or sa'angreal as they fell through the gateway. Maybe Cyndane still has the angreal? If so, that would explain everything. Cyndane is weak, but with the angreal, she appears stronger than Graendal.
I've had my own personal theory for a long time that Mierin (Lanfear's name before she turned to the shadow) was not very strong originally. I have always guessed that at some point Lanfear went through the doorway where you get 3 gifts and one of those gifts she asked for was to be the most powerful channeler in the world. I think she got it, but now that she died that promise no longer is binding and she is back to her normal strength. Either that, or perhaps the DO somehow gave Lanfear extra strength for joining the shadow and in reward for boring the hole in the DO's prison.
Of course, the most likely thing is what everyone else has said, and that BS made a mistake. But he seemed very certain from how you're describing things. My theories up above could explain why Cyndane is weak. Maybe even combine one or more of my ideas above?
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17/11/2009 04:23:32 PM
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Cyndane is "very, very weak"?!
17/11/2009 04:41:32 PM
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I asked Brandon to clarify last night in Pasadena about Cyndane
18/11/2009 05:22:14 PM
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Do you realise what this means! We now have a clear strength list among the female Forsaken...
18/11/2009 05:42:51 PM
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That means, though
18/11/2009 05:48:15 PM
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I've started a new thread, giving the new, DEFINITIVE female Forsaken strength list. Yay!!! *NM*
18/11/2009 05:58:03 PM
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Re: Do you realise what this means! We now have a clear strength list among the female Forsaken...
18/11/2009 09:27:06 PM
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I apparently have to Log In to read this.
17/11/2009 05:33:03 PM
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You don't need the email confirmation!
17/11/2009 05:36:40 PM
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Hm. I could have sworn I saw something about an email confirmation. Thanks. *NM*
17/11/2009 05:38:14 PM
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The strength comparisons don't make sense...
17/11/2009 06:26:05 PM
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Re: The strength comparisons don't make sense...
17/11/2009 06:55:39 PM
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If you read it in context, the list he is referring to is a female list...
17/11/2009 07:41:18 PM
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I don't think...
17/11/2009 07:48:36 PM
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How do we explain BS stating that he is "pretty sure Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage?"
17/11/2009 07:51:39 PM
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forgetting Cyndane, it does
17/11/2009 08:56:16 PM
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No Forsaken knew, when the Cleansing would happen...
17/11/2009 09:43:04 PM
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Re: No Forsaken knew, when the Cleansing would happen...
17/11/2009 09:48:31 PM
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Talaan and Someryn are pure guesses from Dom...
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Elayne at the beginning of PoD thinks Talaan is at least as great as Nyn
18/11/2009 12:23:31 AM
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Thanks Ken!
17/11/2009 07:07:03 PM
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It almost has to be Justice
17/11/2009 07:30:32 PM
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But here's the thing....
17/11/2009 10:27:55 PM
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I think the clues still point to it being Justice
17/11/2009 10:37:44 PM
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I was just making argument
17/11/2009 11:05:18 PM
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Guaire Amalasan!
18/11/2009 12:50:09 AM
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Maybe Hawkwing took Justice from Amalasan after the Battle of the Jolvaine Pass?
18/11/2009 02:09:03 AM
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That was the crazy part - I named him as one of LitN's "other channelers producing weapons".
18/11/2009 02:17:25 AM
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And I appreciate your arguments!
18/11/2009 08:49:55 AM
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Perhaps it's a "Sword for the Ages"
18/11/2009 09:26:00 AM
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Thank you Ken for the report. You aren't pulling our leg are you?
17/11/2009 11:11:48 PM
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Re: Thank you Ken for the report. You aren't pulling our leg are you?
17/11/2009 11:26:30 PM
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My theories of what Brandon could have meant about Cyndane.
17/11/2009 11:25:30 PM
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Who is the Aiel chick with all the one power strength? I forget who, but she is Shaido. *NM*
17/11/2009 11:34:42 PM
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One of the women stronger than Nynaeve is probably a Sharan
17/11/2009 11:53:12 PM
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don't read too much into this
18/11/2009 12:00:19 AM
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It could be true
18/11/2009 02:14:50 AM
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This is RJ's Wheel of Time we're talking about. Not David Eddings. *NM*
18/11/2009 02:18:08 AM
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