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Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM
I'm half way through tGS and something popped into my mind.....what is the point of the Aes Sedai? Are they comic relief? Are they just filler?

Have the Aes Sedai contributed anything major to the storyline? Have they discovered any knowledge about the Last Battle to help Rand? Have they helped with any of the conflicts among nations/factions to help bring order to Randland prior to the Last Battle? Have they even captured or killed a Forsaken? They just keep fighting among themselves.....what's the point!

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Aes Sedai and the White Tower are a very powerful organization with influence all over Randland. I don't see how you could minimize their part in the series. They are essential to Tarmon Gaidon considering they channel the One Power not to mention that the Green Ajah's whole purpose is to fight at the Last Battle.

The simple fact of being an organization of channelers makes them highly important to Rand and the world if not only to counter the dreadlords. They have fought alongside Rand against the Seanchan, helped Perrin save Two Rivers and contributed to saving Rand from his captivity. That's just to name a few.
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1326 Views
They are politicians at heart... everynametaken - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 892 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 448 Views
Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago? trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM 661 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* ajfurst - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 314 Views
What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM 321 Views
Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM* ajfurst - 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM 317 Views
She is the Heir, not the daughter of the heir! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 05:24:24 PM 332 Views
As we found out, in painfully slow manner, she was neither! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:31:02 PM 314 Views
Short answer: nope. Marshall - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 838 Views
Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM 649 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 659 Views
rather.. urizen - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 779 Views
I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM 723 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. Onarishma - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 688 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 677 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine Onarishma - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 595 Views
But then.. urizen - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 712 Views
Kind of Sort of fairfax - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 650 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... Onarishma - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 612 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims redhand - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2048 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1420 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 680 Views
Always help or contribute.....never do or lead..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM 622 Views
if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM* Onarishma - 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM 364 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 600 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 829 Views
You're asking the wrong question HyogaRott - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 663 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 627 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 388 Views
Scored using your words NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 762 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 612 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* Marshall - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 307 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 371 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 645 Views
They reduced her in power. TheCrownless - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 570 Views
Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM 653 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 597 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 542 Views
Have you read the books? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 591 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 591 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 629 Views
Oh dear! NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 556 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 520 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 716 Views
This is silly guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 560 Views
There is no misrepresentation NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 577 Views
The point I made is guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 561 Views
Are we speaking english? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 770 Views
Not really BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 647 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 699 Views
OK NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 630 Views
No idea BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 607 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 734 Views
Well what do you think of BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 842 Views
And another point NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 540 Views
For the sake of argument, though BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 604 Views
OK fair enough NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 589 Views
rAndy aL - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 707 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 558 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 282 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 581 Views
Yeah right... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 535 Views
Yes, seriously rAndy aL - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 640 Views
It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends. BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM 584 Views
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