Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
Watcher Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM
The main reason that so many different groups were shown in the series is that RJ was trying to make his world look realistic. If everyone was selfless and noble and willing to sacrafice for the greater good how interesting a book would that be. Hell the series would probably have ended by Book 2 as the combined nations armies and the Seanchan advance guard marched on the blight.
No group except possibly the Shadow are 100% either good or bad. Rand has made mistakes. The Aiel are kick ass warriors but do they ever hold a grudge against the people of Cairhien, most of whome were not consulted by their king before he cut down the tree and quite a few were not even alive at the time.
The Tairain High Lords are arrogant tyrants but their land is orderly if oppressed. Andor is showed mostly in a good light but they are willing to destroy an entire generation to attack a borderland army that has been keeping the world safe for years from the Shadowspawn just because they did not ask for permission to go south. The list could go on.
The Aes Sedai are high handed, think they are the most important group in the world, plot and scheme but consider this. They have stopped wars in the world, they have kept alive knowledge of the Shadow. One of them saved the world by finding the dragon reborn before the shadow. They are a centre of learning and while their methods can leave a lot to be desired the average Aes Sedai's heart is in the right place.
No group except possibly the Shadow are 100% either good or bad. Rand has made mistakes. The Aiel are kick ass warriors but do they ever hold a grudge against the people of Cairhien, most of whome were not consulted by their king before he cut down the tree and quite a few were not even alive at the time.
The Tairain High Lords are arrogant tyrants but their land is orderly if oppressed. Andor is showed mostly in a good light but they are willing to destroy an entire generation to attack a borderland army that has been keeping the world safe for years from the Shadowspawn just because they did not ask for permission to go south. The list could go on.
The Aes Sedai are high handed, think they are the most important group in the world, plot and scheme but consider this. They have stopped wars in the world, they have kept alive knowledge of the Shadow. One of them saved the world by finding the dragon reborn before the shadow. They are a centre of learning and while their methods can leave a lot to be desired the average Aes Sedai's heart is in the right place.
Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts.....
17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM
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You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM*
17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM
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Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago?
17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM
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That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM*
17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM
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What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM*
17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM
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Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM*
18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM
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Short answer: nope.
17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM
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Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly.....
17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM
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Wonderful response, and I agree.
17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM
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rather..
18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM
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I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History
18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM
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Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true.
18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM
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Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true.
18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM
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Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine
23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM
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AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM
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Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM
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Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts.....
17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM
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Always help or contribute.....never do or lead.....
17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM
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if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM*
17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM
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You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group
18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM
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SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM*
18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM
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Scored using your words
18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM
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Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken.....
18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM
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So who killed Lanfear? *NM*
18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM
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You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody.....
19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM
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They reduced her in power.
19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM
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Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman.....
19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM
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Have you read the books?
19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM
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I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken.....
19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM
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Oh dear!
19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM
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Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death.....
19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM
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Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death.....
19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM
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This is silly
19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM
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There is no misrepresentation
19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM
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Re: There is no misrepresentation
19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM
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19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM
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There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously?
19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM
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You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM*
19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM
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It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends.
19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM
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