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Here's the way he should have done it... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/11/2009 06:19:18 PM
..a few days after reading it I still had the urge to tear the page out of the book! But Rand's logic really does make sense. Graendal is smarter than him. He needs to seize any advantage he has immediately. How would you have stopped Graendal in Rand's shoes?


Rand should have disguised himself as Ramshalan, and gone into Graendal's lair with the exact same message.

He goes in holding saidin, however. Now, if things went as he expected (and they did), Graendal would attempt to compel "Ramshalan". This will immediately let Rand know he is in her presence, even if she is disguised. Since he is already holding saidin, he'll be immune to her compulsions, as Sammael said.

He then surprises her and balefires her.

End of story. Forsaken dead beyond the Dark One's grasp, and no other threads of the Pattern Balefired.
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So what was the point of a certain member of the Forsaken? Shannow - 13/11/2009 12:04:20 PM 1374 Views
Wait until Towers of Midnight. lord-of-shadow - 13/11/2009 02:04:23 PM 981 Views
Not exactly.... Light in the Night - 13/11/2009 10:55:57 PM 777 Views
Clickety click guttering flame - 13/11/2009 03:04:37 PM 849 Views
RAFO *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 04:34:10 PM 311 Views
She made all of Rand's subsequent chapter's suspensful, IMO Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:31:49 PM 818 Views
I was disapointed too and needless to say, shocked. *NM* Onarishma - 14/11/2009 09:31:45 AM 307 Views
I was initially... Moridin_2000 - 15/11/2009 02:03:14 AM 658 Views
Oh it made sense just so unexpected. Graendal and Semirhage. Onarishma - 15/11/2009 01:27:17 PM 604 Views
Here's what I would have done... Shannow - 15/11/2009 02:45:32 PM 646 Views
Rand is not Dumbledore guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:10:58 PM 651 Views
Sorry, haven't read any Harry Potter books, so I have no clue what you're referring to. Shannow - 15/11/2009 03:13:32 PM 641 Views
Gateway blocking sphere? Sidious - 15/11/2009 03:28:09 PM 651 Views
We don't actually know that... Shannow - 15/11/2009 04:05:10 PM 668 Views
Re: We don't actually know that... Sidious - 15/11/2009 06:02:28 PM 649 Views
From Question of the week 14 Shannow - 15/11/2009 07:34:19 PM 628 Views
Disagree Sidious - 15/11/2009 08:14:28 PM 653 Views
What if he makes multiple gateways at the same time? Shannow - 15/11/2009 08:21:48 PM 666 Views
I agree. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/11/2009 08:50:54 PM 270 Views
But RJ answered this Sidious - 15/11/2009 09:47:57 PM 676 Views
You're ignoring a key sentence... fionwe1987 - 15/11/2009 09:58:03 PM 695 Views
Re: You're ignoring a key sentence... Sidious - 16/11/2009 06:47:47 AM 653 Views
The issue is that it is easier to make a gateway than to block one - individually. Shannow - 15/11/2009 10:04:22 PM 712 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 16/11/2009 07:12:05 AM 809 Views
Problem is... Shannow - 16/11/2009 07:45:41 AM 638 Views
I agree with Sidious... Moridin_2000 - 15/11/2009 04:12:04 PM 644 Views
The quote exists. I'll get it for you and post it in a couple of hours. Gotta go to church now. Shannow - 15/11/2009 04:13:35 PM 623 Views
Ok, later Moridin_2000 - 15/11/2009 04:17:07 PM 646 Views
Here's the full quote, from Question of the Week 14. Shannow - 15/11/2009 07:30:29 PM 697 Views
Here's the way he should have done it... fionwe1987 - 15/11/2009 06:19:18 PM 618 Views
I don't think I would put too much faith in that.... Light in the Night - 15/11/2009 09:32:22 PM 623 Views
Moghedien and Cyndane didn't attack Graendal, in fact... Shannow - 15/11/2009 09:36:03 PM 764 Views
That wasn't what I said.... Light in the Night - 16/11/2009 12:42:53 AM 590 Views
Re: That wasn't what I said.... Sidious - 16/11/2009 07:14:08 AM 953 Views
I guess you could see it that way Light in the Night - 16/11/2009 08:48:23 PM 703 Views
My bad... fionwe1987 - 16/11/2009 02:22:35 AM 618 Views
She killed Asmodean, didn't she? Moridin_2000 - 15/11/2009 01:58:40 AM 642 Views
Moridin used her Lord Haart - 15/11/2009 06:54:59 PM 602 Views
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