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It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame Send a noteboard - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM
A coward would instead mindlessly cling to life no matter what. It takes courage and fortitude to make a sacrifice on the order of ending your own existence so that you can't be used as a weapon to enslave your people.

The White Tower is at war with the Seanchan. In war you need to disarm your enemy. Any captive Aes Sedai are enemy weapons.
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) Matrimony Cauthon - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2078 Views
Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured Lordling - 13/11/2009 07:04:02 PM 810 Views
That doesn't make her right, it makes her a coward *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:50 PM 482 Views
Your hatred and judgment of Egwene is obsessive and at times unreasonable. Like right now. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 14/11/2009 03:56:34 AM 443 Views
In this he his reasonable...I think he is mostly wrong with the statement, but it is reasonable *NM* RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:08:35 AM 334 Views
Wrong and unreasonable. krassos - 14/11/2009 11:07:16 PM 822 Views
It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM 434 Views
"Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" krassos - 15/11/2009 02:45:21 PM 631 Views
Re: "Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:14:27 PM 794 Views
Because most people often get acclimated to being beaten 3 or more times a day. krassos - 17/11/2009 01:02:37 AM 661 Views
When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM 703 Views
Teenagers at school didn't spend hours a day getting spanked. Repeatedly. For weeks straight. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:13:38 AM 606 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens guttering flame - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 791 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens Night Walker - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 732 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method guttering flame - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 823 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 868 Views
The point is guttering flame - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 597 Views
They were tried. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 301 Views
Mock trials guttering flame - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 694 Views
Proof? fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 618 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 696 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 666 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 778 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 818 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 732 Views
Except for the fact that she never served the Dark One. She was Black Ajah in name only. krassos - 21/11/2009 04:16:48 PM 602 Views
Not true. Verin did in fact serve the DO. She admited as much darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:28:56 AM 663 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 311 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too Sidious - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 646 Views
Sad but true darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 615 Views
Based on those two actions... entyti - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 795 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? NaClH2O - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 712 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 334 Views
She did not target her own people... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 688 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 711 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 313 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1006 Views
That's ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 711 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 687 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people NaClH2O - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2277 Views
Nothing wrong with that. Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 741 Views
She does have first hand experience TheCrownless - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 740 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... krassos - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 658 Views
Re: Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) randfandom - 13/11/2009 08:16:29 PM 705 Views
Neither is an atrocity... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 939 Views
this ^ *NM* Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 277 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 742 Views
Bull Sh!t! fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 770 Views
Come on now... Rand al'Thor - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 671 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 675 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 601 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 629 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 694 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:45:57 PM 614 Views
Re: Knightscape - 13/11/2009 11:16:58 PM 672 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:34:49 AM 566 Views
Re: Knightscape - 14/11/2009 01:46:51 AM 682 Views
Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 746 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 698 Views
Re: So... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 593 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 623 Views
Re: Not at all... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 599 Views
Re: Not at all... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 610 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! Ryan - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 641 Views
Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 763 Views
Re: Rand. Dragonsworn - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 761 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 324 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice Ryan - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 591 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1025 Views
Since Rand did not perform any atrocities, Egwene by default (Existing) Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:22 PM 836 Views
Its the difference between lodlom - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 654 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again Skeeve the Great - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 577 Views
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