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But... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM
The thing is though; we have never seen a way to reverse this type of recruiting. Even though those people didn't choose that path, they are now loyal to the DO, probably more then most those who willing went over.


As Verin herself show us. There are doubtless many who joined for fear for their friends or made the decisions to regret it later. Sheriam for example seemed an unwilling supporter for the end of all things even if she had at one time joined them to get faster advancements in the Tower.

How does any of this prove that they don't deserve death? Can a man say, "My reason for murder was more benign than that guys. I did it because I was worried he's make my friend go out of business. He did it because he wanted power. So give me a lesser punishment"?

Unless there was blackmailing involved, where the person was asked to join or else face the death of family and friends, I don't see why there should be mercy. Even in this case, said person could have chosen to let someone in authority to know, just like Verin did. Slaughtering innocents in the name of protecting family doesn't merit mercy, IMO.
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2078 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 791 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 732 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 823 Views
But... - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 868 Views
The point is - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 597 Views
They were tried. *NM* - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 301 Views
Mock trials - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 694 Views
Proof? - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 618 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 696 Views
But... - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 666 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 778 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 818 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 732 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 311 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 646 Views
Sad but true - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 615 Views
Based on those two actions... - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 795 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 712 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 334 Views
She did not target her own people... - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 688 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 711 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 313 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1006 Views
That's ridiculous... - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 711 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 687 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2277 Views
Nothing wrong with that. - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 741 Views
She does have first hand experience - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 740 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 658 Views
Neither is an atrocity... - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 939 Views
this ^ *NM* - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 277 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 742 Views
Bull Sh!t! - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 770 Views
Come on now... - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 671 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 675 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 601 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 629 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 694 Views
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Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 746 Views
So... - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 698 Views
Re: So... - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 593 Views
Not at all... - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 623 Views
Re: Not at all... - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 599 Views
Re: Not at all... - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 610 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 641 Views
Rand. - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 763 Views
Re: Rand. - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 761 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 324 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 591 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1025 Views
Its the difference between - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 654 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 577 Views

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