Weren't you the one who wanted uncertainty and doubt?
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 08:11:30 PM
No one can influence how the authors write the story and portray the characters. But it irritates me tremendously that Egwene was portrayed in a more heroic fashion than Rand.
Was she really? Who was the person who the Shadow actively worked to convert, who was mentally tortured continually so he would come to the point where any normal person would want to end it all? Who, despite all this, came to his senses on his own (though the act was triggered by others)?
People dismiss Rand's final finding of love as a motivation as corny. But its so easy to forget that there is so much sacrifice involved in living on and fighting so that the people you love may be born again to seek happiness. Rand/LTT don't hope to be reunited with Ilyena in this life or any other. But they still want to fight on so that wherever she is, she may be happy.
It is a different take on the hero's motivation, made possible because time is circular in this series.
In exactly how many series do we have an arch villain whose reason for choosing to follow the devil is as rational, as brave, as Ishamael's? While ultimately wrong, there is sense in his philosophy.
And what better answer to that than Rand's? Why else should the world continue? It isn't as if all wars and evil will stop forever.
Rand's true heroism lies in the fact that he finds his motive to fight on despite being the one man no one should blame if he gave up on the world.
For Egwene, these realizations were not necessary because she always lived her life. Her life has always been about hope. Hope for something better than what people around her expected of her. Which is why she endures despite the many cultures she has been exposed to. She takes what is positive from each, and continues to grow, as she has always wanted to.
For Egwene, there was never any confusion that the Last Battle was about defeating the DO. That was but part of the larger effort to save humanity.
The lessons Rand is now learning about emotional stability and leadership, Egwene learned long before, among the Wise Ones, Moiraine and Siuan.
Rand is the Alpha and the Omega, in this world. If he slipped, fell and broke his neck, the world would end. You would think that he might be portrayed as a bit more special than some upjumped innkeep's daughter, who is as ordinary as they come.
You want it both ways then? There must be doubt, and darkness in your hero, but he should also be super special ala Richard Rahl?
And Egwene is not more special than Rand. Just different. The end products of all the experiences both have faced are not so different from each other, as Egwene herself realizes. Which is why I always insisted that she is the chief female protagonist of the series. Dealing with the same issues as Rand, but differently, in a smaller scale.
It's the author's prerogative, as I said. But I would have written the story differently.
I wouldn't change it. The mirroring between these two is what made tGS so special. It is only in contrast to Egwene that Rand's darkness is truly apparent. It is only in tandem with Egwene that the horror of his journey to enlightenment is truly appreciable.
Else you might as well have had all the prophecies about Egwene rather than the most important human ever to be born on the planet.
Who says the most important human being also has to be the best, most clear headed and emotionally stable person in the world?
And who says Egwene is always right. She has a struggle she must yet face. She has to acknowledge that Rand is the true leader, that she can but be number 2. Not because prophesy demands it, but because Rand deserves it.
Rand and Roose Bolton...
13/11/2009 02:02:11 PM
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That is probably due to you having fought so many wars in Video Games, but not real ones.
13/11/2009 02:20:42 PM
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I loved Dark Rand. I agree, I wish he was around longer. Should've come out earlier in the series.
13/11/2009 03:23:59 PM
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You people are mad
13/11/2009 04:01:27 PM
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Reading about a saint is boring. Reading about an imperfect hero is exciting.
13/11/2009 04:38:24 PM
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That's actually kind of shallow and limited
13/11/2009 05:07:55 PM
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Nice post. And I acknowledge that you're entitled to your opinion.
13/11/2009 05:14:41 PM
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I don't read for morality either, but IMO, it makes a better story because it is tougher
14/11/2009 12:08:14 AM
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This wasn't Sanderson's portrayal!
13/11/2009 05:52:51 PM
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Good post.
13/11/2009 06:37:37 PM
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Re: Good post.
13/11/2009 06:51:49 PM
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You're right. But I'm very angry with the writers for portraying Egwene in such a positive way.
13/11/2009 07:18:10 PM
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Weren't you the one who wanted uncertainty and doubt?
13/11/2009 08:11:30 PM
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I have only one comment, and that's about your last sentence...
13/11/2009 08:43:13 PM
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Re: I have only one comment, and that's about your last sentence...
13/11/2009 09:01:24 PM
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I do have to say, though, that I would have burst out laughing if he balefired Tuon and the Seanchan
13/11/2009 10:25:30 PM
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Re: I have only one comment, and that's about your last sentence...
13/11/2009 09:44:31 PM
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You were shown as early as TDR that conquering someone doesn't mean they are going to follow you
14/11/2009 10:45:51 AM
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