The Forsaken include Moghedien as well, and Nynaeve is much stronger than her.
I simply cannot understand this determined effort to make Nynaeve a weak channeler. All we need is RJ's statement that Nyn is average female Forsaken strength. That might out one or two of the Forsaken women above her, but that is all.
And if she though Semirhage was stronger than her, she would have said so. See her reaction to Alivia.
I simply cannot understand this determined effort to make Nynaeve a weak channeler. All we need is RJ's statement that Nyn is average female Forsaken strength. That might out one or two of the Forsaken women above her, but that is all.
And if she though Semirhage was stronger than her, she would have said so. See her reaction to Alivia.
There's no reason to think she would say anything. She didn't say anything and her lack of evidence can't be used as evidence. Besides, I have better things to do than degrade Nynaeve's strength, but that doesn't mean the Forsaken can't be shifted around. Maybe Graendal is only one step higher than Moghedien, and Semirhage is the powerful one. We just don't know. There must be fifty possible combinations which allow for Nynaeve to be average Forsaken strength. We only know that Lanfear is at the top and Moghedien at the bottom. The other three can be anywhere.
Well, she has never felt Nynaeve or Sharina close to their full potentials, so it is unsurprising she was awed when she met Mesaana.
I don't think this is relevant. Everyone who's ever spoken of Sharina has described her strength as incredible. They don't really care about what's there and what isn't there yet. If Sheriam does, she's the exception to the rule.
The fact that Cadsuane and co. show no such surprise at Semirhage's strength indicates to me that they don't care because one of their own is as strong or stronger.
Well there's no proof of that, really, but it's as good a guess as any.
Of course the other possibility is that Semirhage hid her potential with an inverted weave when she met Rand, and hasn't unravelled it yet. The others can't do it, so they don't know how strong she is.
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Semirhage's strength in the Power...
12/11/2009 06:57:37 AM
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No you did not...
12/11/2009 07:27:06 AM
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I'll look again tonight, but I'm sure Nynaeve made a comment...
12/11/2009 07:33:29 AM
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Actually, Nynaeave is far stronger than Moghedian now
12/11/2009 12:30:29 PM
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We DON'T know that Graendal is stronger than Semirhage and Mesaana...
12/11/2009 12:48:32 PM
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Inconsistency?
12/11/2009 08:53:39 AM
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Holding a shield vs. making one...
12/11/2009 03:19:09 PM
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Don't they clearly say one single would suffice but they used 2 for
13/11/2009 04:57:15 AM
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To HOLD her. Didn't I make the distinction clear?
13/11/2009 05:04:58 AM
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Reducing the number of people holding the shield, reduces the strength of the shield correspondingly
13/11/2009 07:15:24 AM
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Not necessarily true (Plus, another possibility)...
13/11/2009 07:43:37 AM
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I agree about the angreal, but not the 1 woman shield part...
13/11/2009 07:50:26 AM
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Agree to disagree?
13/11/2009 08:07:59 AM
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Sure, just a couple of points...
13/11/2009 08:18:15 AM
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Re: Sure, just a couple of points...
13/11/2009 08:51:28 AM
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Interesting concept...
13/11/2009 08:59:53 AM
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The answer lies in a fundamental difference between spinning and maintaining a weave...
13/11/2009 09:33:00 AM
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Yeah, I posted on this
12/11/2009 08:53:26 PM
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Hmmm....
13/11/2009 12:42:37 AM
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Mesaana thought she matched Semirhage
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Re: Hmmm....
13/11/2009 06:56:56 AM
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I think Sanderson just doesn't have the interest and knowledge of relative strength that RJ did..
13/11/2009 07:07:45 AM
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Re: Hmmm....
13/11/2009 07:59:57 AM
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The reason behind our (certainly MY) hesitance to place Nynaeve too high, is Alivia...
13/11/2009 08:04:51 AM
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There is a simple answer... skill...
13/11/2009 08:21:25 AM
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Except that...
13/11/2009 08:49:15 AM
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What about Sharina?
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No evidence either way, but you leave a massive gap between Lanfear and the average Forsaken...
13/11/2009 09:31:27 AM
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I don't think it's massive
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