On the basis that we dont agree on the use of sa'angreals on a group. - Edit 1
Before modification by TheCrownless at 12/11/2009 03:03:39 PM
An angreal magnifies the Power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle. If that individual is part of a circle, he/she will merely add a greater amount of Power to the circle, thanks to the angreal.
You sure on that? Like I said, I haven't done a re-read in a while but if you could provide quotes from the books/RJ I'd be willing to accept it.
Also, in the Asmodean/Rand case, they were equally balanced because at the time, they were equal in strength. Rand was not yet at his full power, and he was not in good physical shape. The net result was that he and Asmodean were perfectly matched when they shared access to the Choedan Kal.
Rand was still stronger than Asmodean at that point, they were both in bad physical condition after the chase, so I dont think that argument holds much water.
For me angreals only make sense if a major part of it's calculation is channelers power + "X", wether there is another part of the equation (eg. channelers power x 5 + "X"
or not is up for debate, but a straight out multiplier wouldn't work. On what basis do you say that Rand was DEFINITELY stronger than Asmodean at that point?
And on what basis do you say that a straight magnifier doesn't work for angreal?
On the basis that weaker people could never use the CK, which the multiplier effect does not explain.
As for Asmodean, I cant see their being much difference in fatigue to give him any advantage.
Then if you look at a book or two later he goes toe to toe with Lanfear (each possessing an angreal) and does pretty well. Asmodean could never have done this, despite probably being close to her in strength (I cant remember off hand but they put Lanfear at 90~ and Asmodean at 80-85~ on most of the strength charts I'd seen) she had vast ammounts of skill, for Rand not to be instantly crushed he'd have to be stronger than her in the power.
Rand was probably close to fully developed in terms of how much he could channel by his dual with Rahvin, which would put him at 105 on common scales, close to 25 higher than Asmodean at full strength. Also Asmodean (admitedly in his character) runs from Rand.
Either way it's a matter of opinion, I'd like to hear Sidious or (god forbid) Cannoli's view which I suspect would put the issue to bed, as they could provide quotes to say one way or another.
As it is I'm in halls without my books so I couldn't find the quotes if I wanted to.