Why can't the CK make Rand more like 10,000x more powerful? That's always the order of magnitude I was imagining based on the descriptions in the book... for the strongest sa'angreal ever made? When an 'average' sa'angreal raises the user's ability above that of an angreal to the same order of magnitude that an 'average' angreal does over using no enhancement?
With that in mind, the existence of multiple sa'angreal multiplying your power 250x becomes extremely likely. 100x is certainly nothing special for a sa'angreal... and when you consider that these CK were considered 'too strong to ever be used', able to fight the Dark One (or the CREATOR, by Lanfear!), and able to crack the world in half... 100x Rand's power just doesn't fit the description.
10,000 times 30 minutes of Rand back-tracking is approximately 200 days. This isn't a proof that this happened, of course, but a proof of concept. If we can reach back in the vicinity of a year, then anything is still possible. And nothing Sanderson said ruled it out... all he addressed was a very limited 'what if'.
With that in mind, the existence of multiple sa'angreal multiplying your power 250x becomes extremely likely. 100x is certainly nothing special for a sa'angreal... and when you consider that these CK were considered 'too strong to ever be used', able to fight the Dark One (or the CREATOR, by Lanfear!), and able to crack the world in half... 100x Rand's power just doesn't fit the description.
10,000 times 30 minutes of Rand back-tracking is approximately 200 days. This isn't a proof that this happened, of course, but a proof of concept. If we can reach back in the vicinity of a year, then anything is still possible. And nothing Sanderson said ruled it out... all he addressed was a very limited 'what if'.
You are proposing that Brandon didn't really rule out being able to go back a year by putting on his Aes Sedai hat and "assuming" a number that was smaller than the actual number to make the math not work out. However, Brandon said
I think it is unrealistic to assume you can get back a year, but that’s not saying it is impossible. I think that if you did that to the Pattern the ramifications would be so dramatic you’d see the Pattern unraveling hardcore at that point, it’s like balefiring an entire city. When I first read that guess I just laughed, I’m like guys c’mon lets run the math on this.
He says "I just laughed...c'mon lets run the math on this." Not the response you would expect if the notes indicated that this is what happens (remember he has a lot of ToM written, and knows how the series turns out, including the reveal of Asmo's killer).
Second, he says "I think that if you did that to the Pattern the ramifications would be so dramatic you'd see the Pattern unraveling hardcore at that point, it's like balefiring an entire city." This is the ramification of balefiring ONE person back ONE year. There was something like 100-200 people in the fortress IIRC. 150 people back 1 year is the same as 1.3 million back 1 hour (150 people*1 year*365 days/year*24 hours/day = 1,314,000 people hours (the SI unit for balefires - or BFs for short )) and the same as balefiring It would be the same as balefiring 5,256,000 people back 15 minutes (the more realistic assumption for how far the strongest channeler in the world can balefire). The Pattern may have unraveled under the strain of that many people being balefired back 1 year.
Sanderson eliminates a particular somebody from consideration as Asmodean's killer
11/11/2009 05:18:48 PM
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He didn't say if she did or did not.
11/11/2009 05:27:34 PM
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Yes, Brandon did. I edited my original message to add in another quote from Brandon...see above *NM*
11/11/2009 05:33:27 PM
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That still doesn't say if she did or did not.
11/11/2009 05:39:12 PM
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It eliminates for the following
11/11/2009 05:44:29 PM
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That's quite a leap of logic...
11/11/2009 06:31:21 PM
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I can't follow your logic
11/11/2009 06:33:41 PM
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That is a fallacious leap of logic.
11/11/2009 06:50:13 PM
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your interpretation is wrong
11/11/2009 05:47:53 PM
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I generally agree...
11/11/2009 06:11:46 PM
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There's nothing in those quotes that even touches on who killed Asmodean.
11/11/2009 06:40:31 PM
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Re: There's nothing in those quotes that even touches on who killed Asmodean.
11/11/2009 07:53:19 PM
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Re: There's nothing in those quotes that even touches on who killed Asmodean.
11/11/2009 11:31:12 PM
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Logain is just making too much of a RJ comment in which he said he'd "probably" do it that way.
12/11/2009 12:13:25 AM
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This logic is lacking as well
11/11/2009 10:17:48 PM
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Re: Sanderson eliminates a particular somebody from consideration as Asmodean's killer
11/11/2009 07:59:32 PM
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But do you agree that Graendal cannot reveal herself if she got balefired? *NM*
11/11/2009 08:07:53 PM
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Re: But do you agree that Graendal cannot reveal herself if she got balefired?
11/11/2009 08:15:16 PM
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Sure she can reveal herself! Even if she got Balefired!
11/11/2009 08:52:49 PM
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this is what happens when you get interrupted in the middle of a post *NM*
11/11/2009 09:28:01 PM
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What? Did you double post?
11/11/2009 09:49:15 PM
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Ya, got couple of phone calls and some other stuff and forgot where I was in the process *NM*
11/11/2009 10:10:10 PM
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According to Etzel, this is impossible
12/11/2009 04:14:47 AM
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I don't say it's impossible...
12/11/2009 03:11:17 PM
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We can still have a pre-death PoV from her. Or another Chosen can implicate her. *NM*
11/11/2009 10:48:10 PM
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That did not confirm anything except her being balefired wouldn't bring him back.
12/11/2009 03:48:43 AM
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Uh, I read the exact opposite
12/11/2009 04:13:45 AM
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That is the most absurd leap in logic I have read in a LONG time.
12/11/2009 02:51:00 PM
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Then you must have missed the threads about Elayne, Aviendha and Min melting together. =P *NM*
12/11/2009 06:24:53 PM
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