As you said, the first half of your post is irrelevant
beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 11/11/2009 06:56:07 PM
It doesn't matter how you view polyamorous relationships in the real world- in WoT, the few we've seen have had absolutely zero of the negative aspects you described. Aiel sister-wives, Greens and their Warders- both are shown to be loving relationships, with no abuse.
All that matters is in the text.
I'm harping on this because, even though you mentioned it, I think you're letting your opinions color your perceptions of the text.
In-text, there has been no implication that Rand's (or Green sisters, or Aiel's) relationships are evil. There's a bit of culture shock, but that's all.
In-text, there has been absolutely no indication that Rand loves one of his girls more than the others, yet you are arguing that he will likely go off with Elayne.
In-text, there has been no indication that Ilyena has been reborn as one of the girls, or somehow split into three souls (which doesn't even make sense).
In-text, there's nothing to suggest that the three girls will somehow merge into one personality, housed in one female body, just to be shoehorned into a monogamous relationship. The first-sister bond and the Warder bond grant a certain awareness of each other, but we've never seen anything to the extent you're suggesting, nor will we.
A few last notes:
The reason I, and others, mentioned your "morals" is because you compared what have been described as loving relationships to atrocities such as Graendal's mind-slaves. In your original theory, you said that you didn't think Jordan would allow the series to end with Rand on the same moral level as Graendal.
Oh, and Mat doesn't have a hive-mind. He has scattered memories from others' lives. There aren't a dozen different warlords speaking to him inside of his head.
All that matters is in the text.
I'm harping on this because, even though you mentioned it, I think you're letting your opinions color your perceptions of the text.
In-text, there has been no implication that Rand's (or Green sisters, or Aiel's) relationships are evil. There's a bit of culture shock, but that's all.
In-text, there has been absolutely no indication that Rand loves one of his girls more than the others, yet you are arguing that he will likely go off with Elayne.
In-text, there has been no indication that Ilyena has been reborn as one of the girls, or somehow split into three souls (which doesn't even make sense).
In-text, there's nothing to suggest that the three girls will somehow merge into one personality, housed in one female body, just to be shoehorned into a monogamous relationship. The first-sister bond and the Warder bond grant a certain awareness of each other, but we've never seen anything to the extent you're suggesting, nor will we.
A few last notes:
The reason I, and others, mentioned your "morals" is because you compared what have been described as loving relationships to atrocities such as Graendal's mind-slaves. In your original theory, you said that you didn't think Jordan would allow the series to end with Rand on the same moral level as Graendal.
Oh, and Mat doesn't have a hive-mind. He has scattered memories from others' lives. There aren't a dozen different warlords speaking to him inside of his head.
I amuse myself.
Min's riddle
08/11/2009 02:45:09 PM
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Re: Min's riddle
08/11/2009 03:20:53 PM
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That third isn't so mysterious
08/11/2009 04:45:31 PM
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Re: That third isn't so mysterious
08/11/2009 04:47:10 PM
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It was stated explicitly that the third person is Moridin.
08/11/2009 05:19:16 PM
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Re: It was stated explicitly that the third person is Moridin.
08/11/2009 06:33:22 PM
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Wrong again. Pages 235-236 in The Gathering Storm are very clear about this.
08/11/2009 10:31:13 PM
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Re: Wrong again. Pages 235-236 in The Gathering Storm are very clear about this.
08/11/2009 11:01:53 PM
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Well, if you want to pull ideas out of your ass there's no way to debate anything.
08/11/2009 11:35:43 PM
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I think you shold know that you are a boor. Bye. *NM*
08/11/2009 11:47:54 PM
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I was more polite to you and your silly theories than you deserved.
09/11/2009 01:32:30 AM
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Nowhere does it state that Moridin is the third. Just one of EIGHT people in Rand's head.
25/11/2009 08:27:31 AM
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It's been known for... a long time, but like Tom says, it was actually stated in tGS *NM*
08/11/2009 06:04:46 PM
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Min's riddle is perhaps solved
08/11/2009 03:43:27 PM
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Hmmm. Not agreeing or disagreeing...but Min had a "Melting" viewing before
08/11/2009 08:34:36 PM
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Three things...
08/11/2009 08:40:37 PM
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Uh...Hello...Ilyena...Elayne...see any similarity?
09/11/2009 05:37:45 AM
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You have some far-out theories and seem to think I’m retarded for not thinking the same
09/11/2009 10:16:51 AM
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I didn't "seem" to think it until now. I was AGREEING with you.
09/11/2009 03:02:15 PM
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I don't see how when I disagree with about everything you said
09/11/2009 11:40:19 PM
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Well, ultimately I couldn't care less what you think. Goodbye. *NM*
10/11/2009 03:13:09 AM
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Eh, there's no evidence of that, other than an abundance of vowels in their name.
10/11/2009 06:49:58 AM
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Answer to Crackbranded Asha' man: Where has it ever been shown that Taim is gay?
09/11/2009 06:25:42 PM
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So... everyone pointing out how terrible this theory is in your original post hasn't disuaded you?
09/11/2009 04:47:25 AM
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Re: So... everyone pointing out how terrible this theory is ...
10/11/2009 12:03:02 PM
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Well, actually- yes! The LTT/Rand thing IS creepy.
10/11/2009 04:33:02 PM
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Re: Well, actually- yes! The LTT/Rand thing IS creepy.
11/11/2009 04:30:28 PM
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As you said, the first half of your post is irrelevant
11/11/2009 06:56:07 PM
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Channelling sickness, pregnancy-induced difficulty with weaving...
08/11/2009 03:53:26 PM
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Rand + Avi + Elayne = Three Channelers.
08/11/2009 05:59:34 PM
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Do you think, that channeling is cool?
08/11/2009 07:46:18 PM
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We're running out of time for the main characters to not start figuring things out.
08/11/2009 10:33:34 PM
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The riddle was simply a clue about safely using callandor. Nothing else.
09/11/2009 12:45:49 AM
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Too simple and obvious. *NM*
08/11/2009 07:56:05 PM
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Appearantly it wasn't obvious...
09/11/2009 12:51:07 AM
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Well... readers have always been better at figuring out the prophecies than characters
09/11/2009 04:56:23 AM
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But readers get the filtered bits and pieces. The characters have access to whole reams of works.
14/11/2009 03:25:50 PM
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I know- that's my point. It's a lot harder to pick things out for them
14/11/2009 06:47:07 PM
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Re: Min's riddle
08/11/2009 09:24:11 PM
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It's a possibility.
09/11/2009 04:59:33 AM
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I can see this as a definite possibility
09/11/2009 10:12:23 PM
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It'd be more like David knocking out Goliath by making him punch himself in the face
10/11/2009 06:58:16 AM
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So why...
10/11/2009 10:14:38 AM
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The Dark One is sentient; the CK is just a tool *NM*
10/11/2009 04:33:52 PM
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True, but it wouldn't be the first time in this series... *NM*
10/11/2009 09:34:19 PM
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My point was that you can't really compare it to destroying the CK- it's a totally different
11/11/2009 07:02:54 AM
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How about LTT (loud voice), Old Rand (tiny voice), and New Rand? They have already become "one" *NM*
04/12/2009 06:32:20 AM
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