You have some far-out theories and seem to think I’m retarded for not thinking the same
Crackbrained Asha'man Send a noteboard - 09/11/2009 10:16:51 AM
Of course, I'm not defending the terrible theory of the main post. To the contrary, it always seemed obvious to me that Ilyena Goldenhair was reincarnated as the blonde Elayne. Jordan always threw in similar names like that to help people - al'Thor sounds mildly like Therin.
Also, I doubt Rand switches bodies with Moridin. I think he needs to switch bodies with Logain to justify Min's viewing of Logain. Logain - Logos - Jesus (Savior) where Lews Therin - Lucifer - Devil. Moridin inhabits Rand's body, and Rand can only save himself by going to Logain's.
Or did you think that a name like Lews Therin and a title like "Dragon" were meant to always be considered "good" in all ages of the Wheel?
Also, I doubt Rand switches bodies with Moridin. I think he needs to switch bodies with Logain to justify Min's viewing of Logain. Logain - Logos - Jesus (Savior) where Lews Therin - Lucifer - Devil. Moridin inhabits Rand's body, and Rand can only save himself by going to Logain's.
Or did you think that a name like Lews Therin and a title like "Dragon" were meant to always be considered "good" in all ages of the Wheel?
Ilyena and Elanyne only have one attribute in common (hair colour) and I Uh...Hello...Ilyena...Elayne...do see similarity to the spellings to the names (see how dumb and annoying that is when someone else does it). Just because a women is named Helen in one life doesn’t mean she has to be Ellan in her next life (and at least those names rhyme). There have been no hints dropped as to Elayne being Ilyena reborn, even Lews Therin doesn’t think it in pasting. Them being the same person would add nothing to the story, especially at this point when Lews Therin’s voice is now gone.
I disagree with you on the Logain theory. I haven’t read the viewing in years but from what I remember I think it might be Logain taking Rands place as the leader of male channelers after TG, which is what I think the ‘glory’ viewing was about. I’d have to read what the viewing on Logain and Rand was again to be sure though
Where the hell did you get the idea that Lews Therin is Lucifer (the Dark One). He fought against the shadow as the supreme commander of the forces of the light and tried to seal the DO’s prison for good. He just got a horrific reputation for the last 3000 years because it backfired in a way none of the men for-saw, but the breaking was still better than what others wanted to do which was nothing and let the DO destroy all existence.
And what is with the attitude in your last paragraph and what does it have to do with anything I said? I don’t think Lews Therin is actually the Dark One like you do because I don’t share your obsession with names but I never said he was considered to be a good guy. Are you saying that Lews Therin Kinslayer, who is considered solely responsible for the breaking and is feared by all mortals, is held in high regards with people?
While the wicked stand confounded call me, with thy saint surrounded
This message last edited by Crackbrained Asha'man on 09/11/2009 at 02:02:17 PM
Min's riddle
08/11/2009 02:45:09 PM
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Re: Min's riddle
08/11/2009 03:20:53 PM
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That third isn't so mysterious
08/11/2009 04:45:31 PM
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Re: That third isn't so mysterious
08/11/2009 04:47:10 PM
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It was stated explicitly that the third person is Moridin.
08/11/2009 05:19:16 PM
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Re: It was stated explicitly that the third person is Moridin.
08/11/2009 06:33:22 PM
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Wrong again. Pages 235-236 in The Gathering Storm are very clear about this.
08/11/2009 10:31:13 PM
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Re: Wrong again. Pages 235-236 in The Gathering Storm are very clear about this.
08/11/2009 11:01:53 PM
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Well, if you want to pull ideas out of your ass there's no way to debate anything.
08/11/2009 11:35:43 PM
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I think you shold know that you are a boor. Bye. *NM*
08/11/2009 11:47:54 PM
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I was more polite to you and your silly theories than you deserved.
09/11/2009 01:32:30 AM
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Nowhere does it state that Moridin is the third. Just one of EIGHT people in Rand's head.
25/11/2009 08:27:31 AM
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It's been known for... a long time, but like Tom says, it was actually stated in tGS *NM*
08/11/2009 06:04:46 PM
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Min's riddle is perhaps solved
08/11/2009 03:43:27 PM
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Hmmm. Not agreeing or disagreeing...but Min had a "Melting" viewing before
08/11/2009 08:34:36 PM
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Three things...
08/11/2009 08:40:37 PM
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Uh...Hello...Ilyena...Elayne...see any similarity?
09/11/2009 05:37:45 AM
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You have some far-out theories and seem to think I’m retarded for not thinking the same
09/11/2009 10:16:51 AM
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I didn't "seem" to think it until now. I was AGREEING with you.
09/11/2009 03:02:15 PM
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I don't see how when I disagree with about everything you said
09/11/2009 11:40:19 PM
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Well, ultimately I couldn't care less what you think. Goodbye. *NM*
10/11/2009 03:13:09 AM
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Eh, there's no evidence of that, other than an abundance of vowels in their name.
10/11/2009 06:49:58 AM
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Answer to Crackbranded Asha' man: Where has it ever been shown that Taim is gay?
09/11/2009 06:25:42 PM
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So... everyone pointing out how terrible this theory is in your original post hasn't disuaded you?
09/11/2009 04:47:25 AM
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Re: So... everyone pointing out how terrible this theory is ...
10/11/2009 12:03:02 PM
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Well, actually- yes! The LTT/Rand thing IS creepy.
10/11/2009 04:33:02 PM
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Channelling sickness, pregnancy-induced difficulty with weaving...
08/11/2009 03:53:26 PM
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Rand + Avi + Elayne = Three Channelers.
08/11/2009 05:59:34 PM
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Do you think, that channeling is cool?
08/11/2009 07:46:18 PM
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We're running out of time for the main characters to not start figuring things out.
08/11/2009 10:33:34 PM
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The riddle was simply a clue about safely using callandor. Nothing else.
09/11/2009 12:45:49 AM
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Too simple and obvious. *NM*
08/11/2009 07:56:05 PM
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Appearantly it wasn't obvious...
09/11/2009 12:51:07 AM
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Well... readers have always been better at figuring out the prophecies than characters
09/11/2009 04:56:23 AM
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But readers get the filtered bits and pieces. The characters have access to whole reams of works.
14/11/2009 03:25:50 PM
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I know- that's my point. It's a lot harder to pick things out for them
14/11/2009 06:47:07 PM
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Re: Min's riddle
08/11/2009 09:24:11 PM
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It's a possibility.
09/11/2009 04:59:33 AM
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I can see this as a definite possibility
09/11/2009 10:12:23 PM
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It'd be more like David knocking out Goliath by making him punch himself in the face
10/11/2009 06:58:16 AM
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So why...
10/11/2009 10:14:38 AM
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The Dark One is sentient; the CK is just a tool *NM*
10/11/2009 04:33:52 PM
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True, but it wouldn't be the first time in this series... *NM*
10/11/2009 09:34:19 PM
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My point was that you can't really compare it to destroying the CK- it's a totally different
11/11/2009 07:02:54 AM
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How about LTT (loud voice), Old Rand (tiny voice), and New Rand? They have already become "one" *NM*
04/12/2009 06:32:20 AM
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