You give her to much credit for seeing that the messanger means he has found her. She would be able to read the guys mind and know that as far as he knows she hasn't. This would be waaay more intelligent that we have seen the forsaken be during the entire novel. Leaving a servent in the room is not at all unheard of, and we haven't seen any evidence that I know of that compulsion weaves have to be "maintained" the simplest answer is that she is dead.
I think that Moridin nailed it on the head in his assessment: Moghedien got caught up in her schemes, like a spider stuck in it's web, whereas Graendal is smart enough to scheme, gain information but recognize a mess as soon as she saw it coming for her and strong enough to choose her battles.
I think Rand hit it pretty accurately, as well: he claimed that he figured out how to defeat a more cunning opponent, but I don't think he realized athat as soon as he was in Arad Doman, he was on her battleground. Hell, this is a man that accepts her being in the palace without even considering the possibility that she Compelled the guy, walked through a Gateway, and stopped maintaining her weave or had the distance attenuate her flows.
Even furthering the ridiculousness, this is a man who has yelled at his friends for trying to prevent him from causing catastrophes and abominations but leaves a servant in his room during an intimate conversation for so long that she could walk right up and collar him.
Moghedien is paranoid but scared; Graendal is paranoid, but she'll leave if need be because that is purposefully why she avoids the type of fortresses favored by the others. This wasn't even a surprise attack - a man that channeled enough saidin and saidar to crack the world in half isn't someone Graendal is unbalanced enough to stick around to talk to.
I think Rand hit it pretty accurately, as well: he claimed that he figured out how to defeat a more cunning opponent, but I don't think he realized athat as soon as he was in Arad Doman, he was on her battleground. Hell, this is a man that accepts her being in the palace without even considering the possibility that she Compelled the guy, walked through a Gateway, and stopped maintaining her weave or had the distance attenuate her flows.
Even furthering the ridiculousness, this is a man who has yelled at his friends for trying to prevent him from causing catastrophes and abominations but leaves a servant in his room during an intimate conversation for so long that she could walk right up and collar him.
Moghedien is paranoid but scared; Graendal is paranoid, but she'll leave if need be because that is purposefully why she avoids the type of fortresses favored by the others. This wasn't even a surprise attack - a man that channeled enough saidin and saidar to crack the world in half isn't someone Graendal is unbalanced enough to stick around to talk to.
Graendal's fate?
02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM
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I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean.
02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM
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Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean.
02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM
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Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean.
02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM
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Why has she been removed from the list of suspects?
02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM
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Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean?
02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM
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She is dead *spoilers*
02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM
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I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board
02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM
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Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer?
02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM
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Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM*
02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM
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Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers*
02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM
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That weave was very complex.
02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM
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Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex.
04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM
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Almost certainly dead
02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM
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Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM*
03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM
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Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning
04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM
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Re: Balefire.
04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM
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Not necessarily.
04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM
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The thing is...
04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM
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Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand.
04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM
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Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand.
09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM
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Hm. Possible.
04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM
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I think it's the most simple possibility.
04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM
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Re: I think it's the most simple possibility.
09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM
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That's just absurd
04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM
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No, I'm making it more simple.
04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM
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That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion
04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM
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Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate.
05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM
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Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM*
06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM
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Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points**
05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM
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Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was
18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM
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Proof for reincarnation exists
26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM
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RJ said...
26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM
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