That doesn't make sense contextually though.
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 08/11/2009 05:36:02 AM
I've always held to the position that balefire did not permanently destroy a thread, it just killed them in the past. Because if it were the former, then humanity would be in perpetual decrease - if there are no new souls to be introduced into the system, but souls can be taken out, then there is an inevitable and continuous loss. And since time is circular, meaning an infinite amount of time elapsed since the beginning, then there has been an infinite loss of souls, for no gain of souls and a finite number of souls. It's simply impossible.
However, the wording employed in that chapter definitely indicates that this is the case. Aside from the redundant 'dead forever' employed, Nynaeve says "Rand, you used balefire! They were burned out of existence!" The fact that she emphasises the use of balefire means that it is different, with this tone, worse, then simply being dead.
Hence the impossibility, and the problem. Which is why I created this thread in the first place.
However, the wording employed in that chapter definitely indicates that this is the case. Aside from the redundant 'dead forever' employed, Nynaeve says "Rand, you used balefire! They were burned out of existence!" The fact that she emphasises the use of balefire means that it is different, with this tone, worse, then simply being dead.
Hence the impossibility, and the problem. Which is why I created this thread in the first place.
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08/11/2009 03:15:34 AM
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Yes, but limits--can still be re-spun and some balefire may not work
08/11/2009 03:41:52 AM
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It's the 're-spun' part that bothers me.
08/11/2009 04:37:08 AM
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Can't know, except logic
08/11/2009 05:03:17 AM
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That doesn't make sense contextually though.
08/11/2009 05:36:02 AM
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Re: That doesn't make sense contextually though.
08/11/2009 07:17:27 AM
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Re: That doesn't make sense contextually though.
08/11/2009 08:18:44 PM
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I maintain that my first impression and my rereading it did not cause me to question how it works
13/11/2009 09:41:20 AM
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Hmm
18/11/2009 11:56:09 PM
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no he said the person dies "before" the DO's know's they are gone.
23/11/2009 02:15:11 AM
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Forever in context means not resurrected not not reincarnated *NM*
08/11/2009 06:37:50 AM
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Re: It's the 're-spun' part that bothers me.
08/11/2009 07:43:03 AM
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But she has been studying about the workings of the Wheel.
08/11/2009 08:13:26 PM
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Re: But she has been studying about the workings of the Wheel.
08/11/2009 09:08:11 PM
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