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This whole Graendal is alive-idea Etzel Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM
Reminds me of the theories (which I and others supported) that Semirhage actually must have had a more clever plan than to simply try capturing Rand disguised as Tuon in KoD. The main reason was that we thought that a Top Forsaken like Semirhage wouldn't be that stupid. But we learned in TGS that Semirhage indeed failed greatly. Graendal wasn't even stupid in TGS, but the Semirhage-lesson taught me that no Forsaken is such intelligent as the "Graendal escaped"-followers believe now. She simply couldn't anticipate Rand's action.

Besides that, it makes more sense that Graendal's storyline was ended that way to concentrate on other things in the last two books, similar to Masema's, Semirhage's, Suroth's, Sevanna's, Galina's and maybe Elaida's conclusion.
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I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 589 Views
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Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 546 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 621 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 768 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 662 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 656 Views
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It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 569 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 658 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 620 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 237 Views
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But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 567 Views
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Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 511 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 534 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 546 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 567 Views
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I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 653 Views
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meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 482 Views

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