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Re: Graendal... Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 02:52:49 PM
She is just indirectly dangerous, through her manipulations. If you confront her, she runs. Besides that, also Sammael and Moridin managed to outsmart her.


Well I don't claim that she's invulnerable. She doesn't necessarily run - she does what suits her purposes, and with Rand it would be to surrender and prove her worth, and then get him later. Sammael was nervous enough around her to hold saidin, and that should be proof enough. Besides, I don't know how you can claim that... she was confronted by Cyndane/Moghedien, and Verin and friends, Sammael, Lanfear... she didn't run - she attacked or was on the verge of attacking all of them.

She obviously didn't use a disguise in the Caemlyn Palace, though, which makes no sense and is in conflict with your argument that she is an adept at it.


I didn't say she used it, merely that walking around the Palace with Rand his friends there would be no obstacle to her. She's decent enough at illusion to disguise herself as an old woman. No matter who the assassin is, Asmodean recognized them immediately. You can't tell me that Slayer would walk around the Palace nonchalantly. Clearly the assassin was also caught off guard.

Plus, when Graendal thought that Moghedien and Cyndane would suddenly attack her in PoD, she is shocked as well, but immediately uses Compulsion.


Yes, that is true, but remember at that stage she had an angreal and could afford to use other weaves to capture her attackers instead of killing them. She thinks about killing different Forsaken at different times, and I doubt she only uses Compulsion. Kumira is proof of that.

The only powerful way to reveal the most discussed mystery in the history of the series would be to let the killer reveal it. You can't seriously think that BS would e.g. Moridin casually tell another Forsaken: "By the way, I never told that before, but actually Graendal killed Asmo a year ago", if BS was able to let Graendal reveal it and the circumstances herself in TGS.


Actually it would be completely relevant and very powerful. Moridin could be musing in his fortress... "Moridin considered the loss of two of the Chosen in a short span of time, both of whom he'd had a hand in, both of whom were skilled and valuable to the Shadow. Semirhage was deadly in her own way, and Graendal had shown that no enemy was beyond her grasp, even a traitor like Asmodean."

That would in no way be weak to read.
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