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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM

I found Rand/Lews Therin's attitude to this Forsaken to be very interesting in this book. I've always thought that she was one of the most dangerous people in the world, but Lews Therin amplified this to a level I didn't expect.

The funny thing about this is that Lews Therin has absolutely no idea how to beat her. He knows that she can't be baited into a duel. He admits that she is more intelligent and crafty than he is. You can literally feel how every step he anticipates, he expects her to have already countered. Lews Therin is not subtle in saying that she knows more about the mind and humanity than any other person. He knows how to fight Rahvin or Sammael, or other Forsaken, but he can't fathom this one.

For this reason, he was forced to commit a mass atrocity to capture her. It was the one thing she wouldn't anticipate... or would she? Either way, although Lews Therin established his fear of falling into Semirhage's hands, he made a big scene about Graendal and her lethal nature.
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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM 2013 Views
It has definitely been hinted - 05/11/2009 08:37:04 AM 1064 Views
Graendal wasn't that deadly... - 05/11/2009 09:37:24 AM 1098 Views
I think she was - 05/11/2009 02:42:48 PM 948 Views
RJ still put her in the top category of the Forsaken.. - 05/11/2009 05:24:06 PM 1041 Views
I think she's the most deadly and intelligent. The others are idiots, IMHO. - 05/11/2009 06:38:30 PM 965 Views
This whole Graendal is alive-idea - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM 989 Views
I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 922 Views
Here's the deal, though. Semirhage actions actually followed part of the theory to a tee. - 05/11/2009 07:21:21 PM 949 Views
Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 852 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 957 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 1178 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 996 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 1036 Views
Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 09:41:53 PM 908 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 10:58:01 PM 874 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 11:58:24 PM 982 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 06/11/2009 02:22:51 PM 909 Views
It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 886 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 1003 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 979 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 376 Views
Re: Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 02:34:54 PM 961 Views
But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 910 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:07:02 PM 941 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:53:41 PM 1107 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 07:35:12 PM 867 Views
She's definitely the deadiest - 05/11/2009 02:05:23 PM 988 Views
I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM 927 Views
Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 824 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 876 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 908 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 906 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:35:18 PM 993 Views
From what I keep hearing - 05/11/2009 08:58:57 PM 909 Views
I could well believe it - 05/11/2009 11:03:40 PM 873 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 06/11/2009 09:00:01 PM 796 Views
I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 987 Views
I don't think it's acceptable to tear apart the Pattern to save it. - 05/11/2009 06:40:22 PM 800 Views
True... - 05/11/2009 06:57:24 PM 851 Views
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Re: True... - 05/11/2009 07:35:06 PM 885 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 08:07:42 PM 869 Views
I always thought she was the most dangerous of the chicks. - 06/11/2009 04:28:43 AM 1008 Views
Difference between being dangerous and hard to kill--but, she is dangerous - 08/11/2009 02:19:34 AM 920 Views
Semirhage did far more destruction than Graendal. - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM 980 Views
Graendal also made chaos in Shara, though... - 24/11/2009 06:36:15 PM 759 Views
It's not surprising when you start looking at her parallels - 12/12/2009 01:03:25 AM 766 Views
Not to take away from Graendal, but my vote goes to Semirhage or Aginor - 16/12/2009 07:03:52 PM 767 Views
meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 778 Views

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