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compare: fybonacci Send a noteboard - 03/11/2009 05:07:56 AM
p. 457:
"Tuon found herself longing, suddenly, to obey him. To please him. A treaty. A treaty would be excellent, it would give her a chance to stabilize her hold..."

Here is Chap 46 of Shadow Rising, Moghedien compelling Nynaeve and Elayne
"Nynaeve nodded vigorously, smiling even more rapturously than before. Elayne realized that she was, too. She was sure she could answer the questions first. Anything to please this woman."

On the other hand here is Rand asking Egwene for the location of rebel Aes Sedai
"Egwene opened her mouth -- and realized that she was about to tell him all she knew about Salidar. Barely in time she clamped her teeth shut..."

With the taveren effect there is no desire to please and no made up reasons, as there was with Tuon and Rand.
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You haven't read the book yet? *NM* - 31/10/2009 06:11:41 AM 296 Views
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