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Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM
You've said this more than once now. Why does Egwene with a sa'angreal have an overwhelming advantage over 50 damane? You do realize she was fighting a whole huge group of damane who were trying to kill and capture her.
And who says she ever faced 50 at any one time? Being able to take on enemies bit by bit is a large advantage, and that's more or less what she was doing. It is all but impossible for multiple people outside of a structure to engage one who is inside. She only ever had to face a few who were fighting her at the time. And with a sa'angreal against women with no more than their born strength, who are trying to channel from the back of a to'raken or raken for the first time (which, according to Tuon is a unique tactic for this raid, so they are not experienced in it), there is no reason why she should not have won. She is to be commended in the same way as a person undertaking an exhausting task, that could get her hurt if she messed it up. It hardly counts as any sort of significant challenge or heroic feat. Particularly if she is such a superior channeler as you and she have been asserting at least since KoD. You want to show off your little fireball tricks? Now put your money where your mouth is, and do something worthwhile with that fire. And to her credit, she did. But her side still lost, they still had sisters taken, and novices for whom they have an absolute moral responsibility to protect. That is no time for celebrating personal heroics or self-aggrandizement. Racking up a high total of kills in a defeat just means you did yor job (though sometimes it means you were glory-seeking instead of doing your job, albeit not in Egwene's case). And when it is analogous to sitting in a tower with an automatic rifle and a ton of ammunition, fighting people flinging spears from the back of motor cycles, you have no excuse for NOT raking up a high kill count.
Cannoli
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2576 Views
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Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 954 Views
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*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 483 Views
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I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 901 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 884 Views
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