Unless you can prove that damane And how do you do that without the Power?
You don't, because wielding the Power does not make you a power hungry megalomaniac.
That does not prevent the problem at all. The ability would crop up again. If the Kin can hide their true numbers and longevity from the White Tower which is keeping an eye on them, how do you propose a society of non-channelers prevent such a group from arising in their midst, and gaining strength and influence until it is time to take over? The Reds had it easy, because male channelers had no long term future, and could not try this, but untainted women? Give it no more 100 years after the death of the last known channeler before they are a major threat again.
Bull shit. Use your sul'dam to find women who can channel, and instead of torturing and enslaving them, kill them. Continue doing this, don't stop with the current generation. End of story.
As if they haven't.Well, since they haven't, I'm waiting to see what twisted logic you'll use to "prove" that they have.
They do this too. Every girl they want, anyway.
But these girls can quit any time they want. Just refuse the test for Accepted thrice, and you're not only free to go, you're also given a fat purse of gold to start you up in the world!
Aside from using the Power in war, they do everything you mention, and they only refrain from the former because it helps them more than using the Power as a weapon does.
How does it help them? If they used it ruthlessly like the Sanchan did (say they used it against Hawkwing's besiegers), they be dominating the land in ways they can only dream of with just politics and manipulation.
The Seanchan Imperials needed the a'dam because they did not have time to breed a population of loyal channelers, but if the Tower tried to rule through the use of the Power on their enemies, every ruler or would-be ruler would be gathering his or her own force of channelers, and that would be the end of the Tower. Oh, they might survive as a polity, but they would be no more than any other state in WoT, even if they did maintain their superiority in ability or numbers of channelers.
And why exactly will the Tower leave rulers free to gather channelers? They can snap up whom they want, and if they can use the Power as a weapon, which King has the ability to stop them?Anyway, by showing that the Aes Sedai chose a path of lesser power for the sake of greater peace, you defeat your own argument that hey are like the Seanchan.
Yes.
Why? I think you need to explain why you believe channelers are inherently more evil.
As I see it, channeling is merely a tool. It can be used fo good or ill, and that is the case whether channelers use the ability, or someone else uses the ability through them. Its not like ordering assassination is morally different from holding the gun and shooting someone yourself!
How so? I am opposed to channelers being in charge. How is it hypocrisy to want normal people in charge of channelers? That seems like consistency to me!
Because nothing differentiated normal people and channelers except the ability to channel! The a'dam all but makes normal people channelers. So what has changed?
This message last edited by fionwe1987 on 31/10/2009 at 11:06:05 PM
Is anyone angered by the Seanchan and a'dam?
- 30/10/2009 11:14:00 PM
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Yes, but not me
- 30/10/2009 11:32:45 PM
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Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam
- 30/10/2009 11:39:45 PM
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Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam
- 30/10/2009 11:45:29 PM
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Except the Seanchan are not spoiled chidlren who mistake "wishful thinking" for a plan
- 31/10/2009 04:48:45 AM
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Or he could have used the Choedan Kal
- 31/10/2009 12:21:42 PM
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What Choedan Kal? *NM*
- 31/10/2009 10:15:24 PM
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For what?
- 31/10/2009 12:03:57 AM
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if he was it wasn't on purpose. I think he was just actively trying to use his ta'verenness *NM*
- 31/10/2009 12:15:32 AM
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I dont think it's compulsion.
- 31/10/2009 12:16:00 AM
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Actually, I think it's the other way around. 
- 31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM
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- 31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM
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I don't care for Tuon at all. I'd be okay if her and the Seanchan were obliterated. *NM*
- 31/10/2009 12:44:22 AM
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And how is that any different from me with Egwene (except she & I are the same race)? *NM*
- 31/10/2009 04:51:17 AM
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Why not Highlords in Tear?
- 31/10/2009 02:10:07 AM
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You dont really get it.
- 31/10/2009 12:23:35 PM
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Not at all. Their position is perfectly justified by their experiences.
- 31/10/2009 04:29:25 AM
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The a'dam and leashing of channelers does not change the fact that the OP can be misued...
- 31/10/2009 09:17:20 AM
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Which is why people should NOT be MORE angered toward Seanchan than toward WT.
- 31/10/2009 06:22:13 PM
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That's complete hogwash.
- 31/10/2009 10:23:50 PM
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Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it
- 01/11/2009 05:44:16 AM
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Re: Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it
- 05/11/2009 02:54:52 AM
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Well that was rather silly.
- 31/10/2009 12:27:03 PM
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And a generation later, the same old problem arises. New channelers, with no one to stop them.
- 31/10/2009 10:28:35 PM
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Several valid points...
- 31/10/2009 05:17:09 PM
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I wonder what if Egwene happen to be a child kidnapped at Flame and sent to WT
- 31/10/2009 06:30:34 PM
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The sul'dam should be destroyed
- 31/10/2009 05:14:06 AM
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The people themselves shouldn't be.
- 31/10/2009 05:26:08 AM
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Only the Empress can remove the custom
- 31/10/2009 05:48:09 AM
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Due to their conditioning.
- 31/10/2009 06:03:32 AM
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She will 
(and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM*
- 31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM
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(and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM*
- 31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM
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I think the a'dam is the perfect solution for Blacks and the Shaido 'Wise Ones'.
- 01/11/2009 02:51:27 AM
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