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Think it through Cannoli Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 10:25:08 PM
Unless you can prove that damane will become power hungry megalomaniacs if left free, leashing them serves no purpose.

The way to handle mass murderers is not to control their ability to mass murder. It is to remove that ability completely.
And how do you do that without the Power?

If the Seanchan genuinely believe that the OP taints people who wield it, they should kill all channelers. Harnessing the channelers ability merely alters who can misuse the power. How is that a solution to the problem?
That does not prevent the problem at all. The ability would crop up again. If the Kin can hide their true numbers and longevity from the White Tower which is keeping an eye on them, how do you propose a society of non-channelers prevent such a group from arising in their midst, and gaining strength and influence until it is time to take over? The Reds had it easy, because male channelers had no long term future, and could not try this, but untainted women? Give it no more 100 years after the death of the last known channeler before they are a major threat again.

What if the White Tower created a Senachan like state in the Westlands? Ruthlessly killed all opposition,
8} As if they haven't.

used the Power in war, used their extensive system of eyes and ears to deliver swift retribution and forced every girl who could channel to join the White Tower?
They do this too. Every girl they want, anyway. Aside from using the Power in war, they do everything you mention, and they only refrain from the former because it helps them more than using the Power as a weapon does. The Seanchan Imperials needed the a'dam because they did not have time to breed a population of loyal channelers, but if the Tower tried to rule through the use of the Power on their enemies, every ruler or would-be ruler would be gathering his or her own force of channelers, and that would be the end of the Tower. Oh, they might survive as a polity, but they would be no more than any other state in WoT, even if they did maintain their superiority in ability or numbers of channelers.

Some of that already happens, and you have harshly criticized the Tower for it. But somehow, when it is non channelers who end up wielding the Power for their purposes, its alright?
Yes.

This is ridiculous hypocrisy on your part.
How so? I am opposed to channelers being in charge. How is it hypocrisy to want normal people in charge of channelers? That seems like consistency to me!
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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This message last edited by Cannoli on 31/10/2009 at 10:29:48 PM
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