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Re: The Forsaken are lame ducks. The Dark One is the only real villain in the series. Saruto Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 12:45:35 AM
...it turns out that there is nothing elite about them - they are simply there because they are the most venal and corruptible. The Dark One promoted them because they are so selfish that they are easily controlled! Not for superior channeling or skill or intelligence or accomplishments, but because they were incredibly selfish jerks who happened to be born with natural power.


I've been sure of this since the begining. Seeing how lame Ishamael was really served to devalue the Forsaken in my estimation. It is clear that the Dark One is playing them all, and the fact that the "most powerful" were among the first to falter or die through their personal quirks and weaknesses.

"Paired opposites define your longings, and those longings imprison you." - the Forsaken are fictional counterparts to Herbert's old saying.

At this point, I'm just waiting for Ishamael/Moridin to become Shaidar Haran's pleasure slave.


I really wish this wasn't the case, although I disagree with you about Ishamael. He got shit done consistently throughout the ages due him to being spun out for 40 years at a time. The main reason he was rather ineffective in the beginning I think was because he was more insane than not due to overuse of the TP. He pretty much destroyed civilization single-handedly TWICE. That's a pretty good track record compared to the rest of the Forsaken.
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Black sisters, and the irrelevance of Verin's revelation Cannoli - 29/10/2009 03:56:54 PM 1728 Views
Re: Black sisters, and the irrelevance of Verin's revelation bogotabandit2 - 29/10/2009 04:08:57 PM 903 Views
The Forsaken are lame ducks. The Dark One is the only real villain in the series. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/10/2009 04:11:14 PM 863 Views
Re: The Forsaken are lame ducks. The Dark One is the only real villain in the series. Saruto - 31/10/2009 12:45:35 AM 649 Views
There's also Fain, Slayer, and a bunch of non-DF's who nevertheless do heaps of evil. Lord Haart - 13/12/2009 02:36:36 PM 546 Views
Seems like that would be pretty common, though beetnemesis - 30/10/2009 05:51:36 PM 685 Views
Nice comparison - Black Ajah and Muslims. Wow. *NM* mogi67 - 31/10/2009 11:10:03 AM 278 Views
Your point being? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 07:28:54 AM 666 Views
Re: Your point being? mogi67 - 01/11/2009 11:31:44 AM 630 Views
It's still a poor comparison darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 05:45:38 AM 549 Views
Who says they are misguided? Cannoli - 16/12/2009 02:46:12 PM 543 Views
I wonder when Sheriam joined the Blacks, and how much she grew up after. The Name With No Man - 05/11/2009 05:24:06 AM 675 Views
to use Cannoli's favorite quote RtDB (this is a joke btw) darius_sedai - 13/12/2009 07:32:22 PM 557 Views
Orders to Mat Lohikaarme - 28/12/2009 09:50:30 PM 488 Views
Re: Orders to Mat darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:37:29 PM 584 Views
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