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Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM
I think you are wrong to describe the harbour chain operation as stupidity on Egwene's part. I think, in retrospect, it will be seen as one of the momentous events in the series. With one bound, she was free, free of the machinations of the Shadow. Though nominally a prisoner, she became a free agent and look what happened. Mesaana's plans unravelled completely.

In real life, I am not a believer in conspiracy theories, but the whole series reeks of conspiracy. I am pretty sure that Rand has been entangled in a deep conspiracy more or less from the beginning and that many of his problems stem from that. I used to think that Verin (and Cadsuane) was part of that, but now obviously I have to rethink. If only I understood why Ishamael is so solicitous of Rand's life.

The Shadow (Ishamael) knew that it had to face up to Rand and long prepared for it. I believe that the advent of Egwene as a strong player in her own right is one of the turning points of the war precisely because she was not foreseen and was vastly underrated by the Shadow (and by readers too, I might add).

I too was led astray by all the three ta'veren business and relegated Egwene to the role of bit player. It now appears that, far from being a bit player, she is probably just as important as Rand and more so than Perrin or Mat. Readers are miffed, but a lot of it has been foreshadowed.

PS For a number of reasons, I believe that Egwene is fully ta'veren by now.
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2702 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1076 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1034 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 618 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 949 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1070 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1119 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 948 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1125 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 975 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 543 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 953 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 940 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1000 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 945 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1494 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1183 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1142 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1050 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 967 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 979 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1078 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1070 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 938 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1187 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 960 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 901 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1017 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1006 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 925 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1034 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 981 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1087 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1152 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1047 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1078 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 980 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 997 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 946 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 960 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1044 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1106 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 934 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1065 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 919 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 968 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1070 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 928 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 864 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 987 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1004 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1116 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1048 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1050 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 884 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 429 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 964 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1112 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1061 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 906 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1061 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 550 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1028 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1099 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1073 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1048 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1038 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1000 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 971 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1003 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1009 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1051 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 911 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 921 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 566 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 979 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 939 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1131 Views

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