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Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM
I think you are wrong to describe the harbour chain operation as stupidity on Egwene's part. I think, in retrospect, it will be seen as one of the momentous events in the series. With one bound, she was free, free of the machinations of the Shadow. Though nominally a prisoner, she became a free agent and look what happened. Mesaana's plans unravelled completely.

In real life, I am not a believer in conspiracy theories, but the whole series reeks of conspiracy. I am pretty sure that Rand has been entangled in a deep conspiracy more or less from the beginning and that many of his problems stem from that. I used to think that Verin (and Cadsuane) was part of that, but now obviously I have to rethink. If only I understood why Ishamael is so solicitous of Rand's life.

The Shadow (Ishamael) knew that it had to face up to Rand and long prepared for it. I believe that the advent of Egwene as a strong player in her own right is one of the turning points of the war precisely because she was not foreseen and was vastly underrated by the Shadow (and by readers too, I might add).

I too was led astray by all the three ta'veren business and relegated Egwene to the role of bit player. It now appears that, far from being a bit player, she is probably just as important as Rand and more so than Perrin or Mat. Readers are miffed, but a lot of it has been foreshadowed.

PS For a number of reasons, I believe that Egwene is fully ta'veren by now.
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2539 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 930 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 901 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 541 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 811 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 915 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 971 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 815 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 995 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 846 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 471 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 823 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 816 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 848 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 799 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1325 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1028 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1011 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 919 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 824 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 853 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 937 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 923 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 804 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1024 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 816 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 771 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 872 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 882 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 802 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 875 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 865 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 897 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 990 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 904 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 964 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 826 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 866 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 815 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 811 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 891 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 968 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 791 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 931 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 773 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 830 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 915 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 786 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 741 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 843 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 817 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 914 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 920 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 911 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 759 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 356 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 842 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 988 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 920 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 772 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 917 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 471 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 888 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 952 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 931 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 916 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 891 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 857 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 827 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 870 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 850 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 903 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 775 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 792 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 496 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 860 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 813 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 992 Views

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