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so I guess ... Bookwyrm Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM
Egwene being tortured, humiliated, and nearly killed wasn't enough for you? Outchannel her? We've seen that already with her fights with the Forsaken. We've seen her collared. We've seen her almost become Myrrdraal fodder. I for one think she is what she is and a heroine nonetheless.

She is a stout hearted Two Rivers folk. Asking her to be not self-righteous (when she is in the right) is like wanting Mat not be a a rebellious, irresponsible "cool" character, or Nynaeve to be so stubborn, Perrin slow, etc.

Rand has big burdens, lost loved ones, lost a hand, almost went psychotic from mistreatment by Elaida's AS. But he still acts like a fool. So why not hate on him? But I don't, and I don't expect others to either. He has enough problems.

Why are you singling out Egwene? I understand if you just don't like her character, but you shouldn't (and thats a collective you to all Eqwene haters) be saying stuff like that when the character is not even that faulty. Sure the current Aes Sedai aren't that great, but it's what the world has, and they are doing what they do for the betterment of mankind. Boo on you. Off to the boo box with the lot of you.

You know who REALLY needs to be put in his place? Mat! He's been strutting around the ENTIRE series so far without any repercussion from his irreverence and insulting manner to others. Let's see. He has the knowledge of every general who ever lived, he has natural, UNEARNED skill with fighting that even bested Gawyn and Galad. He is lecherous and insulting to women. He gambles and drinks to run away from responsibility. And this is the character almost everyone loves to near death over a girl who is responsible, loyal, and genuinely nice? IDC if Mat's nice at his core, if I had a friend like him around me, I'd beat his ass up and tell him to man up, grow some balls, and fracking rescue Moiraine already. He's a ****ing lazy piece of ****. :P

Sorry if my rant went downhill there, but I'm tired of the Egwene bashing. I'm merely balancing sh*t out with some Mat hate. :D
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2459 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 864 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 816 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 508 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 734 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 842 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 900 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 752 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 915 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 768 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 443 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 745 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 751 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 768 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 728 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1255 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 954 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 934 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 840 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 776 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 778 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 855 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 850 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 762 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 951 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 746 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 699 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 790 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 800 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 718 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 799 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 792 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 813 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 906 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 829 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 889 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 779 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 786 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 746 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 730 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 824 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 891 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 723 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 852 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 700 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 753 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 832 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 715 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 677 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 762 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 748 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 812 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 841 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 836 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 692 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 323 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 757 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 922 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 844 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 702 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 834 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 443 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 821 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 878 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 855 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 846 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 803 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 772 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 754 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 794 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 780 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 824 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 731 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 717 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 457 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 785 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 733 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 918 Views

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