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so I guess ... Bookwyrm Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM
Egwene being tortured, humiliated, and nearly killed wasn't enough for you? Outchannel her? We've seen that already with her fights with the Forsaken. We've seen her collared. We've seen her almost become Myrrdraal fodder. I for one think she is what she is and a heroine nonetheless.

She is a stout hearted Two Rivers folk. Asking her to be not self-righteous (when she is in the right) is like wanting Mat not be a a rebellious, irresponsible "cool" character, or Nynaeve to be so stubborn, Perrin slow, etc.

Rand has big burdens, lost loved ones, lost a hand, almost went psychotic from mistreatment by Elaida's AS. But he still acts like a fool. So why not hate on him? But I don't, and I don't expect others to either. He has enough problems.

Why are you singling out Egwene? I understand if you just don't like her character, but you shouldn't (and thats a collective you to all Eqwene haters) be saying stuff like that when the character is not even that faulty. Sure the current Aes Sedai aren't that great, but it's what the world has, and they are doing what they do for the betterment of mankind. Boo on you. Off to the boo box with the lot of you.

You know who REALLY needs to be put in his place? Mat! He's been strutting around the ENTIRE series so far without any repercussion from his irreverence and insulting manner to others. Let's see. He has the knowledge of every general who ever lived, he has natural, UNEARNED skill with fighting that even bested Gawyn and Galad. He is lecherous and insulting to women. He gambles and drinks to run away from responsibility. And this is the character almost everyone loves to near death over a girl who is responsible, loyal, and genuinely nice? IDC if Mat's nice at his core, if I had a friend like him around me, I'd beat his ass up and tell him to man up, grow some balls, and fracking rescue Moiraine already. He's a ****ing lazy piece of ****. :P

Sorry if my rant went downhill there, but I'm tired of the Egwene bashing. I'm merely balancing sh*t out with some Mat hate. :D
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2580 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 964 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 937 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 562 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 843 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 949 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1007 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 853 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1029 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 885 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 487 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 858 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 850 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 886 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 832 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1365 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1064 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1046 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 955 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 857 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 890 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 972 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 958 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 839 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1062 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 854 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 804 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 907 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 916 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 837 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 910 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 897 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 938 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1026 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 944 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 999 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 864 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 904 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 855 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 849 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 929 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1007 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 828 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 963 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 813 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 866 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 953 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 826 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 774 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 879 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 857 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 966 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 952 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 951 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 795 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 376 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 872 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1021 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 958 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 805 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 954 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 485 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 926 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 989 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 970 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 955 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 935 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 900 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 868 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 905 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 887 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 942 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 810 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 828 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 513 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 894 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 852 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1029 Views

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