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Re: I like your theory but I think she's dead fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 29/10/2009 08:34:24 PM

What difference are you referring to? She tells Rand that the man is heavily loaded with Compulsion and that there are lots of weaves - just less severe than the other guy. Graendal did have less time with him, after all.

Why say there are a lot of weaves? If it is just compulsion, it is just compulsion, and Nynaeve only has to say "yes" to Rand's question (is he infected with Graendal's compulsion). The "many weaves" makes me believe the compulsion was interlaced with something else that removed the weave when Graendal wanted it to.

Except for the huge fact that Nynaeve would notice that Graendal was maintaining a weave. Not only that, but it if you're implying that she unravelled her tied off weave from miles away - I find that completely implausible. Impossible actually. The only real possibility is that she did what Rand did with deathgates and made a weak knot that would unravel after a few minutes.
She need not be holding it. I'm saying she altered the weave so it would vanish at any time she wanted it to.

It's a rare skill to be able to interpret residues, but all channelers can see them.

But Nynave had some of her own weaving in his brain, and these weaves were so tiny she couldn't sense them without sending a probe of spirit in. Maybe the residues were too small to be detected.

Or balefired.

Oh of course. I was mentioning options if she was not balefired.
It's in Graendal's character profile to be alive, but I really have no opinion either way. It's equally likely that we'll have a Forsaken tea party in the next book with Moridin saying that she's toast, and equally likely that she appears out of thin air and we all gasp.

I'm leaning towards her death, to be honest. It was a huge atrocity to kill her, and even if she really is dead, it remains a victory for the Shadow because it made Rand stoop to a new low, spread chaos and use balefire on a massive scale.

I'm sure of one thing. Dead or not, Natrin's barrow was not Graendal's lair.
Semirhage is dead though. I think we can agree on that.

Of course!
Oh and Be'lal... the book suggests from Moridin's PoV that balefire in any form is the final death for a Forsaken.

True. He could have hidden the finer aspects of the truth though.
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