Towards the end of the book The Dragon Reborn, Moiraine Aes Sedai is trying to figure out who the living Forsaken are. Here is the passage:
“I... may know who he was.” Egwene paused with an uncertain frown. “At least, I may have a clue. Verin showed me a page from an old book that mentioned Ba’alzamon and Ishamael together. It was almost High Chant and very nearly incomprehensible, but I remember something about ‘a name hidden behind a name.’ Maybe Ba’alzamon was Ishamael.”
“Perhaps,” Moiraine said. “Perhaps it was Ishamael. But if it was, at least nine of the thirteen still live. Lanfear, and Sammael, and Ravhin, and... Paah!"
Who is this Paah? I don't remember hearing him mentioned, but Moiraine Aes Sedai does so here. Is it a nickname used by someone Forsaken, or is it a new, unknown Forsaken that only Moiraine Aes Sedai knows about?
Please no spoilers from later books, if possible.
“I... may know who he was.” Egwene paused with an uncertain frown. “At least, I may have a clue. Verin showed me a page from an old book that mentioned Ba’alzamon and Ishamael together. It was almost High Chant and very nearly incomprehensible, but I remember something about ‘a name hidden behind a name.’ Maybe Ba’alzamon was Ishamael.”
“Perhaps,” Moiraine said. “Perhaps it was Ishamael. But if it was, at least nine of the thirteen still live. Lanfear, and Sammael, and Ravhin, and... Paah!"
Who is this Paah? I don't remember hearing him mentioned, but Moiraine Aes Sedai does so here. Is it a nickname used by someone Forsaken, or is it a new, unknown Forsaken that only Moiraine Aes Sedai knows about?
Please no spoilers from later books, if possible.
She says 'nine of thirteen', and is clearly enumerating from among them. The thirteen are accounted for, so for your hypothesis to be consistent, 'Paah' would have to be one of those thirteen.
I don't think that is conclusive to say there is no new Forsaken character. From what I know of the series so far, it looks like the Dark One can raise or create new Forsaken to keep the numbers at 13. It seems he really likes that number! 13 Dreadlords and Myrrdraal are also mentioned as something he can use to convert people. So, I would think he wants to keeps the numbers of Forsaken at thirteen.
As of the end of The Dragon Reborn, I think there are three or four dead Forsaken? Two died at the end of The Eye of the World, one at the end of The Great Hunt (I think they died, but not sure), and one dies at the end of The Dragon Reborn. I would think that the Dark One has been working to make new Forsaken to replenish his losses.
Moiraine knows a lot that the other characters don't know, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if she has knowledge of a newly raised Forsaken!
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Mysterious New Forsaken?
25/10/2009 06:34:08 AM
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*posting in an epic thread*
25/10/2009 06:37:00 AM
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It's obviously a joke, Deadster
25/10/2009 08:49:25 AM
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and 87% obviously means that I obviously think it's obviously a joke *NM*
25/10/2009 05:59:01 PM
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Can't be a new Forsaken.
25/10/2009 07:59:39 AM
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That makes sense
25/10/2009 10:15:54 AM
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I don't know who it could be, but it sounds like an Old Tongue name
25/10/2009 06:34:11 PM
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Beg to differ
25/10/2009 06:31:41 PM
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No.
25/10/2009 07:54:33 PM
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Not quite right...
25/10/2009 10:15:27 PM
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*Sound of a sword being drawn from its sheathe.*
26/10/2009 05:00:34 AM
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Sheathe the sword, my child!
26/10/2009 05:09:51 AM
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Sheathing the Sword sounds like a sexual act. *NM*
26/10/2009 05:41:28 AM
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Rock on! Paah killed Asmodean *NM*
25/10/2009 08:46:10 AM
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I am Paah.
25/10/2009 07:22:25 PM
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So it's just a Cairhienin name for the Dark One?
25/10/2009 07:50:13 PM
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Wait wait wait....
25/10/2009 08:04:51 PM
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*Nominates for Best Thread of the Year award*
25/10/2009 09:35:28 PM
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seconded and submitted to QotM *NM*
25/10/2009 11:06:59 PM
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Thanks.
12/06/2010 10:14:26 AM
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Also submitted to QotM - I should have asked BS about Paah at the book signing *NM*
12/06/2010 10:30:23 AM
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