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That all goes without saying TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM
But in that case everyones actions are meaningless, Rand might aswell go to Illian docks and make himself available to sailors for the "good" stuff.
We know the Dark One doesn't win, otherwise it would be a rubbish story.
You have to look at these things in a relative way, important to the story, not the paradoxical universe that could never happen and is just the figment of someones imagination.

You're trying to argue philosophy (a poor excuse for actual science) with the wrong person. Without Moiraine the DO would have Rand and would be free and have won, end of story.
Come to the dark side, We have candy!

I'm Israel, he's Palestine, its more fun when you pick sides.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1462 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 727 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 691 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 648 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 711 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 739 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 729 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 921 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 649 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 313 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 696 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 567 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 761 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 821 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 585 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 303 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 637 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 578 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 596 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 710 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 599 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 654 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 601 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 738 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 521 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 622 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 613 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 574 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 609 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 555 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 580 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 674 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 304 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 834 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 709 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 605 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 626 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 687 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 587 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 292 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 846 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 671 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 535 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 737 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 279 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 660 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 637 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 640 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 581 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 684 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 753 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 721 Views
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