Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM
I look at things a different way, forgetting the actual events that hurt the shadow.
Where would be be in the story now without her? If any of the others were missing things would be worse, but Rand aside she'd been the catalyst for everything, theres a vision Rand has where he is an old man fightin trolloc's in the two rivers, this is what would have happened without her.
Nynaeve ticks most boxes, but she never playes a major role in most of them, Moiraine and Lan where a two man army against the shadow for almost 20 years.
Moiraine and Lan were looking for Rand. How much Shadow-fighting were they really up to? In any event, there are all sorts of things that could have happened even if she never made it to the Two Rivers. Rand could still have hit all the important points without her intervention. A better question might have been, how would she have persuaded them to come with her if the Trollocs had never attacked? Nobody was all that sanguine about her waltzing off with the kids, and she had to persuade them to sneak away, and just about the whole village was in agreement that they had to be recovered from Moiraine's clutches. Without the aftermath of a Trolloc attack to clean up, they would not have been distracted enough to let her get away with the kids, and while the Finder coins might have made Mat & Perrin amenable, Rand was resistant and not all that thrilled with the idea of leaving. Mat would also have been a hard sell to go with an Aes Sedai.
Where would be be in the story now without her? If any of the others were missing things would be worse, but Rand aside she'd been the catalyst for everything, theres a vision Rand has where he is an old man fightin trolloc's in the two rivers, this is what would have happened without her.
Nynaeve ticks most boxes, but she never playes a major role in most of them, Moiraine and Lan where a two man army against the shadow for almost 20 years.
Cannoli
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“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion)
17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM
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I'd say Mat
17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM
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are you sure?
17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM
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Not to downplay Nynaeve
17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM
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Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM
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Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM
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believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM*
18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM
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It has to be Moiraine
17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM
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Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither.
17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM
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So you think the story would have panned out
17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM
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That's highly subjective
17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM
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I think you know exactly what I mean.
17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM
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All of them
18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM
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Those were only visions
18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM
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They may have only been visions...
18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM
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"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere"
18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM
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Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere"
18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM
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It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold
18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM
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Does that mean he'd win?
18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM
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IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win.
18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM
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Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion)
17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM
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Someone needs to re-adjust their meds
18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM
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I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him
18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM
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That is true for most people if not all
18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM
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He's got a point though...
21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM
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"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101.
21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM
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Ishamael/Moridin
17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM
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Good call
17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM
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Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment
18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM
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lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM*
18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM
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You make it sound very simple
18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM
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No - it is very simple
19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM
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I'm going with Nynaeve.
18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM
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