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Re: The ogier all have masculine features. Orlin_Artemi Send a noteboard - 13/10/2009 09:01:27 AM
Just gotta say -- that there have to be female trollocs -- cos they breed. I can't remember specific incidences right off the top of my head, but in a lot of places it says that Fades are throwbacks.. and to have a throwback, you have to breed like to like... what a disturbing thought... Because Trollocs only like killing and eating, do the females pull a black widow kind of thing? Maybe most trollocs are female... eeew.... gonna go pour bleach in my ears and see if that gets the pictures out of my head now...


You can't remember any specific instances because there aren't any. If Trollocs are not exlcusively male (as their very nature suggests), then they have no true gender. Aginor created them in the War of Power by some esoteric form of genetic manipulation that allowed him to marry human and animal features, probably using the One Power (or else some Age of Legends black science). We never see how Trollocs are created in the current age -- which suggests that breeding may be possible -- but we also never see any trolloc young. For all we know, Trollocs are spun into the pattern via the Dark One or else "hatched" in some strange ter'angreal that exists in Shayol Ghul.

Fades are the throwbacks of Trollocs and Humans, so that doesn't really provide us with any substantial evidence of female trollocs, either. I can't rightly say that there are no female trollocs, but I can say that we have not seen any evidence to indicate that there are. The lack of Trolloc young is another strong indication, IMHO that they are more likely created than birthed. Unfortunately, there isn't any evidence that lends weight to either side of the argument.

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What do you consider to be the most pro-masculine culture/country in WoT? The most anti-female? - 19/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 1352 Views
I would say Tear. - 19/09/2009 08:08:18 AM 811 Views
I guess it's a toss up between Tear, Illian and Amador - 19/09/2009 12:28:24 PM 761 Views
What about male-only organizations? - 19/09/2009 02:00:55 PM 715 Views
Yeah, Aiel warrior societies. - 19/09/2009 03:44:36 PM 800 Views
Hm, you never do see a female Whitecloak. Do they ever talk about why? - 20/09/2009 04:11:30 PM 756 Views
Distrust of women because they hate channelers, IMHO. - 21/09/2009 03:47:43 AM 797 Views
Sort of the reverse of the attitudes I talked about below - 21/09/2009 07:21:05 PM 636 Views
Yeah, I'd go with the military thing. - 21/09/2009 05:45:47 AM 628 Views
The Asha'man are less prejudiced than the Tower. - 21/09/2009 05:48:43 AM 694 Views
I was taking you seriously - 19/09/2009 03:29:16 PM 704 Views
Amadicia - 19/09/2009 07:28:43 PM 803 Views
I'll go with Amadicia, as well. - 23/09/2009 07:36:10 PM 551 Views
No question. - 19/09/2009 08:43:47 PM 788 Views
The ogier all have masculine features. - 19/09/2009 09:06:14 PM 812 Views
Re: The ogier all have masculine features. - 19/09/2009 11:54:54 PM 661 Views
I'm not sure the Dark One can be called male... - 20/09/2009 12:27:56 AM 716 Views
Re: I'm not sure the Dark One can be called male... - 20/09/2009 06:43:09 AM 897 Views
Re: The ogier all have masculine features. - 25/09/2009 05:25:49 AM 542 Views
Re: The ogier all have masculine features. - 13/10/2009 09:01:27 AM 649 Views
Ahhhh wall of text! Some good points, though - 20/09/2009 04:04:48 PM 693 Views
Do you have anything against paragraphs? *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:03:48 PM 301 Views
White space is space with no words in it. Wasted. *NM* - 21/09/2009 07:10:41 AM 272 Views
Whitespaceisspacewithnowordsinit.Wasted.Thereifixeditforyou. - 01/10/2009 01:55:21 PM 615 Views
I agree, but I also think there is a purpose. - 21/09/2009 03:43:45 AM 636 Views
Oh, I wasn't criticizing this phenomenom, just noting it. - 21/09/2009 06:17:34 AM 732 Views
that's why they deserve 3 male taveren - 21/09/2009 05:10:52 PM 646 Views
Re: Oh, I wasn't criticizing this phenomenom, just noting it. - 21/09/2009 06:59:36 PM 764 Views
I think the Shienaran custom of protecting women is both patronizing and submissive ATST. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:33:58 PM 733 Views
There's actual cultural reasons for that. - 23/09/2009 04:25:52 AM 581 Views
Far Madding, Elayne's bodyguards, and Tar Valon *NM* - 21/09/2009 07:40:09 PM 302 Views
Amadicia, and possibly the Borderlands - 13/10/2009 08:19:11 AM 724 Views

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