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And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph. nossy Send a noteboard - 06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM
I'll address your points as soon as I have more time. Elayne absolutely did not win the day in this situation, and you'll not convince me otherwise. What she did was get people killed and get into a situation that required someone else to save her ass. If Birgitte, the one who would have, you know, been coddling her, had not been able to track her and trick the windfinders into helping (or going back for Kin to do the same even though most can't fight properly), Elayne would have been lost by her own actions. I feel fine calling her to task for that, and pointing out that the win was in no way her doing. You'd be having convulsions if it were Egwene in a similar situation, so I am finding most of this conversation laughable.

Gotta go, atm.
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Are women really bad generals? Sidious - 01/10/2009 07:05:03 PM 1512 Views
I think that all we can conclude from this... Rand al'Thor - 01/10/2009 07:39:49 PM 805 Views
No. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 07:41:35 PM 944 Views
Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... Shannow - 01/10/2009 08:40:47 PM 1034 Views
Lol... too true Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:29 PM 925 Views
And you guys whine about the lameness of RJ's villains? fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 09:41:54 PM 942 Views
I still haven't seen proof of Demandred or Ishamael's "brilliance". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:56:41 PM 769 Views
Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM 742 Views
Re: Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:48:13 PM 666 Views
but you are difficult to please Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:10:13 AM 722 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:46:56 PM 665 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:17:21 AM 674 Views
But they are lame... they've done minimal damage to the Light Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:06:05 AM 671 Views
You can't have it both ways.... fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 06:47:21 AM 754 Views
Why not? Sidious - 02/10/2009 08:45:35 AM 718 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 04:27:00 PM 617 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:34:16 AM 738 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 03/10/2009 07:40:16 AM 676 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 05:07:51 PM 650 Views
Yeah Etzel - 01/10/2009 09:57:01 PM 704 Views
Re: Yeah nossy - 01/10/2009 10:40:28 PM 737 Views
I thought the same in the past... Etzel - 02/10/2009 07:01:18 AM 715 Views
Gah! Hate! nossy - 02/10/2009 04:11:49 PM 727 Views
Ah, come on... Etzel - 02/10/2009 04:41:37 PM 700 Views
No no, I was just being pouty that I haven't read the new stuff yet. nossy - 02/10/2009 05:01:15 PM 713 Views
Yeah, I can understand that! Etzel - 03/10/2009 12:23:25 PM 568 Views
Unless... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 10:49:55 PM 771 Views
Re: Unless... Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:07:14 AM 800 Views
Well, it's entirely hypothetical, Fanatic-Templar - 02/10/2009 06:31:32 AM 681 Views
Re: Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:51:30 PM 788 Views
What about Mat and Ituralde? Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:28:49 AM 747 Views
Re: What about Mat and Ituralde? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:52:24 PM 686 Views
Good points! Also, these "generals" haven't actually fielded any troops beetnemesis - 01/10/2009 11:23:40 PM 671 Views
Further... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 12:14:44 AM 704 Views
But as individuals they are meant to be deadly too Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:09:21 AM 665 Views
Just one point ^_^ RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/10/2009 12:51:50 AM 692 Views
Well, yeah. They're knowledgable and deadly in person. Generalship doesn't come into it. beetnemesis - 04/10/2009 12:09:50 AM 647 Views
nope nossy - 01/10/2009 08:06:57 PM 793 Views
Re: nope Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:38 PM 890 Views
Tylee Kirgan, Birgitte, and one other, Egeanin NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 09:47:00 PM 1098 Views
Birgitte's not a soldier though. Darth_Katie - 01/10/2009 10:10:50 PM 692 Views
She says she's not, but so does Mat. nossy - 01/10/2009 10:34:04 PM 608 Views
Mat's not a soldier, either - he's a general RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 10:51:29 PM 749 Views
Right, which was what we were discussing at first. nossy - 02/10/2009 04:13:43 PM 693 Views
Yeah, I'm supporting your point about them both being generals RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 06:10:31 PM 702 Views
true, but she does pretty good NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:06:03 AM 743 Views
Oooh I forgot she's in charge of Elayne's lady guards. Darth_Katie - 02/10/2009 03:22:57 AM 624 Views
Egeanin or Leilwin nossy - 01/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 822 Views
A ship captain is like a calvary general NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:24:37 AM 680 Views
Right. Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:36:59 AM 681 Views
Well said. (And its short and to the point.) RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 03:54:23 AM 796 Views
Birgitte is too cautious to be better than an adequate tactician. RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 04:22:45 AM 729 Views
Isn't this more of an outgrowth or her respective specialty? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/10/2009 08:40:46 PM 652 Views
My opinion Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:30:12 AM 1096 Views
That's a poor excuse rAndy aL - 02/10/2009 11:59:42 AM 633 Views
That's a poor argument Cannoli - 02/10/2009 04:02:53 PM 854 Views
Re: That's a poor argument rAndy aL - 03/10/2009 04:26:55 AM 713 Views
I disagree nossy - 02/10/2009 04:26:28 PM 732 Views
Re: I disagree Cannoli - 02/10/2009 08:31:29 PM 929 Views
Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 02/10/2009 09:09:30 PM 877 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. Cannoli - 03/10/2009 04:52:37 PM 697 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. NaClH2O - 03/10/2009 08:26:27 PM 590 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 05/10/2009 05:08:27 PM 3152 Views
I always know I've out-argued an idiot when they fall back on the tired old "RJ wanted it that way" Cannoli - 06/10/2009 04:42:11 AM 737 Views
And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph. nossy - 06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM 846 Views
um nossy - 08/10/2009 07:36:52 PM 982 Views
Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst RabidWombat - 04/10/2009 07:28:36 AM 785 Views
Men and football. nossy - 05/10/2009 04:49:35 PM 710 Views
She didn't kill anyone! Why SHOULD she feel guilty? She gave necessary orders. Cannoli - 06/10/2009 03:33:15 AM 811 Views
It's the only thing men are allowed to do in Randland CupofDice - 02/10/2009 03:09:19 AM 720 Views
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