Active Users:994 Time:22/11/2024 05:00:31 AM
Personally, "religion" in WoT makes perfect sense... For the AoL. Not so much the Third Age Dunstan Send a noteboard - 09/03/2017 01:55:29 AM

View original post
Everyone has motivations, and taking out religion deprives the author of the means of explaining motivations of characters through that prism. It might not be needed in a world where the divine is immanent in places and through avatars, and it seems like Jordan was perhaps initially thinking in that way, not only with the Forsaken, but also with the odd Green Man in the first book. However, he never really developed that idea and quickly moved away from it. I think it was a mistake. I can't think of other fantasy series that are bereft of religion the way Wheel of Time is, though I'll admit I don't read a ton of them.

It isn't a lack of "faith", they have loads of THAT, so much as... Complete and unquestioning certainty.

Personally at it's core it is the stereotypical "Scientist who believe only in logic, reason, and that which can be scientifically proven"... After you give said scientist the ability to 100% prove the existence of everything from fate, God, the soul, to just out and out magic.

The weird thing is how the bloody HELL the mindset survived the Breaking... It's as if after having proven the undeniable existence of such things, they decided to program their findings into the recently proven to exist genetic memory humanity(aka:the old blood) so as to stop any future holy war... Having forgotten, of course, that they had just proven the existence of Gods perfectly capable of starting up their own.


WoT humans are the type that if they met some kind of new god, would have no problem believing in their divinity, they can see their power with their own two eyes after all, but... Would nevertheless try and haggle out their every last miracle and blessing... Would likely end up rather pissing off some more egotistical deities.

Edit: And mind... The AoL was the age that kept it's entire population under the effects of happy-fun-time trees 24-10.

This message last edited by Dunstan on 09/03/2017 at 07:19:01 AM
Reply to message
How did you feel after completing AMoL? - - 24/02/2017 04:03:10 AM 1719 Views
Unsatisfied I suppose or perhaps regretful - 24/02/2017 02:54:12 PM 1162 Views
I'll post this again - 25/02/2017 01:29:16 AM 873 Views
Very good post, can't argue with it. - 25/02/2017 02:40:18 AM 1087 Views
I can argue with some of it - 25/02/2017 09:32:17 PM 998 Views
You can say whatever you want, but you're wrong - 25/02/2017 10:40:58 PM 947 Views
We are not discussing concrete facts, so objective error is impossible - 26/02/2017 01:21:46 AM 1062 Views
In any discussion, error is possible. In your discussions, it's a near certainty. - 28/02/2017 08:24:59 PM 903 Views
On a different topic, how important do you think that stuff is? - 03/03/2017 07:20:15 AM 1017 Views
It's all about suspending disbelief, isn't it? - 04/03/2017 01:13:12 AM 989 Views
That makes a lot of sense. - 08/03/2017 10:18:56 PM 981 Views
On further reflection, I think the religion element being left out is important. - 04/03/2017 04:07:53 AM 916 Views
Middle-Earth? - 08/03/2017 09:53:45 PM 1116 Views
A Elbereth Gilthoniel... - 10/03/2017 04:48:50 PM 934 Views
Personally, "religion" in WoT makes perfect sense... For the AoL. Not so much the Third Age - 09/03/2017 01:55:29 AM 1000 Views
But did they really undeniably prove this existence? - 09/03/2017 04:19:43 PM 1135 Views
Re: But did they really undeniably prove this existence? - 10/03/2017 07:47:11 AM 1094 Views
I think we are saying similar things - 12/03/2017 08:31:13 PM 1037 Views
Some points - 25/02/2017 11:54:50 PM 990 Views
Well, some THINGS anyway. - 26/02/2017 01:56:29 AM 958 Views
Your recognition of irony is profound - 26/02/2017 08:39:47 AM 910 Views
mosty disappointment - 27/02/2017 10:15:29 PM 927 Views
Exhausted - 27/02/2017 10:52:51 PM 922 Views
Total agree about Moiraine's return..... - 28/02/2017 03:57:57 AM 942 Views
With Demandred... That was likely at least somewhat the point. - 28/02/2017 06:09:13 AM 880 Views
Not best pleased. - 27/02/2017 11:59:06 PM 864 Views
It felt like the end of Grease when the car flew off - 01/03/2017 02:22:19 AM 921 Views
Re: It felt like the end of Grease when the car flew off - 01/03/2017 08:39:23 AM 1036 Views
Re: It felt like the end of Grease when the car flew off - 01/03/2017 11:23:18 PM 1019 Views
Re: It felt like the end of Grease when the car flew off - 02/03/2017 06:07:12 AM 894 Views
I still haven't read it. - 01/03/2017 08:03:53 PM 874 Views
Interesting, any reason why you haven't read it yet? *NM* - 01/03/2017 10:26:21 PM 515 Views
It was the end of their world as I knew it, and I felt fine. *NM* - 02/03/2017 11:13:25 PM 562 Views
You were just happy that you-know-who died! *NM* - 03/03/2017 02:47:38 AM 555 Views
Disappointed, shocked, relieved. - 03/03/2017 04:44:56 PM 838 Views
Curious - what were you hoping to happen to Rand at the end? *NM* - 03/03/2017 09:00:12 PM 575 Views
Me too! - 04/03/2017 10:19:21 AM 793 Views
I cried and I was glad it was over! - 04/03/2017 09:13:03 PM 946 Views
there's just SO MUCH that could happen - 05/03/2017 09:33:26 AM 942 Views

Reply to Message