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The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM

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If someone can draw more than this much above their maximum it would seem odd given how many times we've heard about the dangers of overdrawing.

Why? You can overdraw as massively as you want. The constant thing is that you will either be burned out, or straight out die. The best evidence for this is Lews Therin, who, with no angreal or sa'angreal, overdrew enough to create a mountain taller than Everest.

From there, the rest of your argument collapses...

Gonna miss these discussions. Was fun to lay this to bed.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2444 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1139 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1290 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 985 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1239 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1098 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1128 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1225 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1072 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 988 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1037 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1080 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 896 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1116 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1010 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1103 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 940 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1114 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1271 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1182 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1158 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1136 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 957 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1231 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 524 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1199 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1337 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1114 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1387 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1135 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1310 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1102 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1015 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1194 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1379 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 941 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 962 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1002 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 964 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1083 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 844 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1073 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 568 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 533 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 966 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 979 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1079 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1030 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 984 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1130 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 870 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 903 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 823 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 769 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 968 Views
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