Where? I've made about three posts in this whole chain and it's about the Egwene issue. When must I let it lie... why can't we argue about it?
Yes your position is extreme, and I agree that it's harmless. However, if it's extreme then by definition you're biased
Extreme is not inherently wrong, and I don't believe it is extreme, except in consistency. I was stipulating extremism for the sake of argument.
and show a general trend of injustice when someone tries to show you something redeeming about her.
I don't agree that those things are redeeming. Usually such examples have self-serving aspects, or are in service to an unjust end. I wouldn't go so far as to say that she is so thoroughly capable of wrongdoing that anything else is impossible for her, rather I expect her to adhere to the same moral rules as anyone else. Therefore, examples of times when she refrained from active wrongdoing simply do not mitigate or cancel out other things she does that are wrong. For instance, overriding Siuan's intention to murder Nicola and Areina would not cancel out a hypothetical murder on Egwene's part (and as she does commit two such murders in tGS, that puts her further in the whole), as that command is basically the minimal expectation of decent behavior, like Elayne forbidding Birgitte from unlawfully arresting "Mellar". An act of mercy that mitigates violence, would be when someone forgoes a justifiable and personally desirable act of violence. Giving away something you do not lawfully possess is not an act of goodness, and therefore it cannot be a mitigation of theft.
Cannoli you are the rudest poster I've ever come across on this board, or on wotmania. You've only recently even become civil to other posters. I think it's a good point when rationalizing why others posters usually come at you so aggressively - I think we've all felt your venom over the years.
So what? You're completely ignoring the point I've made, that one thing does not justify another. I don't care how "aggressively" anyone comes at me (for the most part, this stuff does not even register on me, as I don't like to project emotions onto correspondance), I care about the topic. When you say "this is wrong, because the book says XXX" that's something we can talk about. When you say "you're wrong because I imagine you to be XXXX sort of person," that's a bullshit argument. That's not even an argument, it is a fallacy. THAT is the substance of my objection, not that my feelings are hurt, but that it is an illegitimate argument or answer.
I did not claim that! I had nothing to do with that assertion. I was merely informing this Tyr person that you actually do have another login when he replied to Darius' assertion.
Are you saying that I'm commenting where I'm not wanted?
No, I am saying you bring irrelevant personal things into a discussion about WoT.
Because I thought that conversations that split off were completely acceptable. There are certain posters whom I like to interact with like you, Cannoli, DomA, Darius, Fionwe and Shannow. I think your appraisal of me is very unfair considering my posts above were purely and factually about Egwene. The other two berated me for trying - it makes complete sense that they wanted to challenge you too but they find it a waste of time. I definitely felt like I wasted my time.
Why? Are you walking back any claims? Conceding any positions? Am I complaining about wasting my time?
You are biased - you can't accept quotes that directly contradict your opinions.
Forgive me but I think that's what you do. I've given evidence that I've posted moderate opinions about this character. Where is yours?
Why is a moderate opinion necessary or superior?
Except anyone else who also does is "crazy". And now you guys, after bringing the whole point up, are now falling all over yourselves to pretend indifference and innocence.
Well you're mashing us all together into a 'single poster' which isn't fair. I wrote to you about Egwene in two decent posts and agreed with Fionwe that you've become too stubborn to talk to. I apologize if that felt like a mortal wound.
I personally have been on the receiving end of exactly that sort of vitriol from you about Lanfear slash everyone. You've directly told me that I'm a power-hungry person in real life because I like the Forsaken and the OP.
But I never said you were not worth talking about, or inferred personal qualities from a general style of discussion. If you want to guess what my specific complaints about Egwene say about my values and opinions, go right ahead. Hell, it's something I've wondered about for the fandom in general, and even speculated about back on wotmania, but couldn't think of any way to explore.
Cannoli, for the love of god, go look at the original posts by me and Fionwe where we demonstrated that you distorted quotes! Fionwe went into even further detail about the raid on the Tower. Your recollection of the facts of those scenes is wrong. It's this sort of denial that is so frustrating.
You didn't quote, though fionwe did later, about a peripheral issue. You offered your own recollections and perspectives of that incident.
Gosh I'm starting to think this is years of anger being released in my direction
I never said you falsified responses to your own posts, not even once. I'm not going to go into the CMB posts and how people aggressively reply to your seemingly radical political/minority views... I just hate it when aggressors are pitied as victims on this board.
What does being radical or a minority have do with right or wrong?

Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions
26/12/2015 08:46:07 PM
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Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions
27/12/2015 04:42:28 PM
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Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions
28/12/2015 12:40:49 PM
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Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions
28/12/2015 01:53:00 PM
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So about Egwene...
28/12/2015 04:26:47 PM
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Why do you bother? *NM*
29/12/2015 01:23:10 AM
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Seriously...
29/12/2015 01:30:34 AM
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You people are the insane ones
29/12/2015 11:21:24 AM
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Re: You people are the insane ones
29/12/2015 12:10:51 PM
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Re: You people are the insane ones
30/12/2015 11:25:09 AM
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Yet it's Mesaana who forces the head to head confrontation with Egwene
30/12/2015 05:25:00 PM
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I don't get the "circumstances being created" argument anyway...
31/12/2015 02:53:14 AM
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Re: I don't get the "circumstances being created" argument anyway...
31/12/2015 06:28:33 AM
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Damn stupid WoT, never working out the way you think it should!
04/01/2016 01:38:45 AM
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So you agree, Egwene eliminated on of the Forsaken in a direct conflict
04/01/2016 03:28:35 AM
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Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive.
04/01/2016 07:17:20 AM
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Re: Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive.
04/01/2016 03:59:18 PM
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Re: Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive.
04/01/2016 04:19:00 PM
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Re: You people are the insane ones
30/12/2015 06:22:02 PM
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Apparently, Egwene shouldn't have killed the Sharans...
31/12/2015 02:56:08 AM
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it's just an excuse to not give credit to a character he doesn't like
31/12/2015 04:44:17 AM
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Exactly. The double standard has always existed in Cannoli's rants.
31/12/2015 05:31:42 AM
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Yes well I've only recently started to realize how distasteful it is
31/12/2015 06:27:26 AM
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You can dislike Cannoli, you can claim his arguments are biased...
31/12/2015 07:09:55 PM
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Offended? No, I find it funny, in a needs medication way
31/12/2015 07:50:28 PM
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It is possible
01/01/2016 05:59:51 AM
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It's also possible that he created a bunch of sock puppet handles to pat himself on the back
01/01/2016 06:53:27 AM
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Re: It's also possible that he created a bunch of sock puppet handles to pat himself on the back
01/01/2016 08:43:43 AM
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She's. Not. A. Real. Person.
02/01/2016 01:49:37 AM
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Fair enough
01/01/2016 09:31:47 AM
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Where did I say someone who reads his posts are dumb or something?
01/01/2016 05:15:30 PM
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See, this is the crap I'm talking about.
01/01/2016 06:20:16 PM
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Re: See, this is the crap I'm talking about.
01/01/2016 07:25:38 PM
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Okay, Mark, all kidding and stuff aside, you're being the asshole, here.
02/01/2016 03:49:08 AM
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Okay...
02/01/2016 04:50:24 AM
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About insults...
02/01/2016 05:04:47 AM
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I don't know where to even respond about all this!
02/01/2016 07:39:43 PM
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Re: Okay...
02/01/2016 12:55:37 PM
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Cannoli's the one who got offended.
31/12/2015 09:23:45 PM
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Yeah, because I was talking about the books, and then you three started talking about me.
02/01/2016 03:55:23 AM
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Re: Yeah, because I was talking about the books, and then you three started talking about me.
02/01/2016 04:56:36 AM
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Re: You can dislike Cannoli, you can claim his arguments are biased...
01/01/2016 08:41:18 AM
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Right? Hell, I was semi-mocking YOU for even bothering to get into it with Cannoli! *NM*
01/01/2016 05:20:58 PM
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Re: You people are the insane ones
29/12/2015 02:13:32 PM
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Re: You people are the insane ones
30/12/2015 11:50:13 AM
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Re: You people are the insane ones
30/12/2015 05:07:09 PM
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My admittedly scratch memory
31/12/2015 08:32:51 AM
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Re: My admittedly scratch memory
31/12/2015 08:47:58 AM
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Thanks
01/01/2016 06:14:45 AM
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One thing...
01/01/2016 06:42:10 AM
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Re: One thing...
01/01/2016 08:49:00 AM
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Re: One thing...
01/01/2016 01:40:21 PM
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We need a term for stuff like that. I nominate "pulling a Brandon" because "BS" is so common.
02/01/2016 02:13:19 AM
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Interesting
01/01/2016 09:18:43 AM
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Re: Interesting
01/01/2016 05:29:38 PM
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Re: Interesting
01/01/2016 06:50:26 PM
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Or perhaps a mixed circle could figure it out
01/01/2016 07:40:02 PM
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Re: My admittedly scratch memory
02/01/2016 02:10:44 AM
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Here we go with the selective criticisms again...
02/01/2016 04:23:47 AM
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It's not selective to point out legitimate differences in circumstances.
02/01/2016 12:25:07 PM
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not true, the Sul'dam's mission was to capture or kill as many marath'damane as they could
02/01/2016 08:49:28 PM
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Only if they were germane to the issue...
03/01/2016 09:32:22 AM
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Timing of the creation of the three oaths
03/01/2016 08:22:12 PM
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Interesting...
28/12/2015 02:31:33 PM
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Re Perrin
29/12/2015 07:24:41 AM
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Perrin is right almost all the time. How is he not smart?
04/01/2016 08:26:18 AM
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