1. What do you think is the funniest moment or line in WoT?
One of several:
- Nynaeve asking Lan, about Myrelle & their bond "Is there any way to be sure she knows it's me?"
- Nynaeve telling a stranger "politely" "Go away, we don't want your help."
- Mat saying "Saving Egwene isn't wasting time."
I'd go with either the whole pursuit of the Horn of Valere, Mat's episode in tDR, or the Andoran succession.
Egwene. With Siuan, Morgase, and Gareth Bryne all running in a close bunch for second place. They were all praised excessively with little to show for it (though with Bryne that's more a function of personality issues; I am assuming he has demonstrated objective military competence at some point or other; when you realize that through the entire series, he never wins a battle, nor has any specific mentions of military accomplishments, combined with the point that he was sleeping with his boss, even the professional assumptions are somewhat shady), and I have thoroughly explored elsewhere the issue of other characters blinding themselves to Egwene's mistakes or emphasizing minor details or even outright faults, as virtues.
The best parts were when he occasionally came up with some clever bit of channeling, though those were few and far between, and he wrote a few bits that seem like he thought he was being clever, but only demonstrated his own ignorance of how things had been portrayed earlier (Androl's gateway Talent) or were not that clever after all (the discussion about the observation gateway at Tarmon Gaidon, where characters brought up stupid faults or overlooked obvious solutions to them).
The worst parts were his attempts at characterization, dialogue, and continuity and his appalling vocabulary.
I suppose Andoran, because it was the most normal, and there were few things thrown in to make them unique. The borderlanders were almost cool, and superficially very much so, but closer examination shows all sorts of absurd gender issues, which seem to have been thrown in to make some sort of point about sexual mores.
Because the Aes Sedai are appallingly amoral. They deliberately undermine their initiates' formative development to leave them only loyal to the Tower, with no moral code except a trio of carefully formulated restrictions that are designed to be evaded, while not even bothering to pretend to pay more than lip service to the letter of those rules, or denying violating the spirit of them as thoroughly as possible. Their entire society is focused on the accumulation of power, making influence and status the most valuable commodities among them. All other commodities or values are either provided in abundance or excised from their value system, at least to the extent that the Tower's interests supersede any other considerations. In such a system, pursuit of power, status and influence within the Tower and among the Aes Sedai is the only real value or "good" permitted to them.
The real surprise is that the numbers of Black sisters are so low. That they are is probably some sort of saccharine commentary on the basic goodness of humanity.
I don't see things going much better for the Aiel. RJ dropped the ball on that one. The other countries are going to get fed up with no ultimate way to deal with their legitimate grievances without the interference of a pack of psychotic morons, and figure out some way to marginalize them the moment Elayne & Aviendha are both out of the picture. They haven't got the wherewithal to truly compete against the civilized world absent some sort of absurd handicap, like the Dragon's Peace or the Tower's stultifying influence.
With the Black Tower now a thing, and apparently likely to continue under a man who seems to be perceived as the greatest living hero in the world, based on Logain's personal growth and Min's viewing of him, the influence of the White Tower can't help but wane. Even with the most amicable relations between the two Towers, the Black is not going to simply roll over and accept the White's exercising influence so specifically intended to its own advantage. With an alternative higher authority, people are not going to allow the White Tower to enforce unfortunate foreign policies which some Grey sister thinks is for the greater good, or which favor a Tower scheme. At the very least, rulers will start using the threat that they might prefer the advice of an Asha'man adviser to obtain more favorable relations with the Aes Sedai.
That loosening up of political society, combined with the gunpowder revolution and the ball Rand got rolling with his academies, should see massive technological expansion. The Sea Folk's only advantage henceforth is their navigation abilities, and Kin Tovere's work, and others like it will soon lead to that being eroded. For the rest, the academy at Cairhien has two components that will soon make the Sea Folk sailing technology obsolete (Idrien describes the invention of mechanical propulsion at one point, noting that it lacks sufficient power to be effective, and we have seen that Poel has perfected the steam engine, so it's only a matter of time before the two are linked up).
The mercantile arrangement Elayne comes to with the Kin will be the death of traditional channeler supremacy. With one group, whose membership have extensive commercial and professional experience (literally centuries of direct, personal practice), embarking on the commercialization of channeling services, the White & Black Towers will have to get into the game or be left behind. A lot of people will take the option of getting rich and joining the Kin, over the prestige of the Towers. If the Kin won't be flexible enough to let new channelers join, someone WILL eventually start an organization with more competitive practices. The Aes Sedai will no longer be able to get away with shutting down groups like they did to the Daughters of Silence, because too many other powers will see advantages to a deal like Elayne has with the Kin. Absent the personal friendship Elayne had with Egwene that might impel her to act against her own national interests, Elayne is going to do what is best for Andor and her own reign. If other groups start showing more verve and flexibility than the Kin, she'll 'encourage' them to change. With Alise in charge, I don't think they'll need it.
Of course, the worst could also happen, as various parties find it in their own interests to adhere to the status quo, the Towers decide to respect one another's supremacy in spheres of influence and combining to uphold that appalling pact Egwene made with the Wise Ones and Windfinders and squelch all other channelers. Cadsuane's necessarily brief administration might see her staying in long enough to ensure the survival of the Tower against the immediate challenges, and the maintenance of its stature, but dying before she has a chance to impart any positive long-term reforms, to be succeeded by yet another career politician of the sort who made the Tower the dismal group it was before Tarmon Gai'don. Likewise Logain's tendency to coddle and bend over backward for Aes Sedai could lead to unfortunate compromises undermining the Black Tower's position as a check.
It's human nature. There's no telling how it could go.
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- I think Mat had a lot of quietly hilarious lines. Romanda gets a mention too, for when she tried to hide the smutty romance novel from Nisao she was embarrassed about. BS had one unintentional gem, which really should make Egwene-haters giggle:
Egwene frowned, as if trying to figure out what advantages there could be in lessened power
- This would be the whole Trakand family.. But Morgase is the one I'm thinking of.
Only in the sense of seeing a blindly arrogant & entitled jerk eventually reaping the consequences of his actions. All the worst aspects of douchey Aiel behavior, their xenophobia, their ethnocentrism, and their complete and total unwillingness to acknowledge that anyone else could have a different point of view with any validity, that 's why they ended up as they did. I'm sure the people who were slaughtered, orphaned, widowed and otherwise bereft of property, homes, livelihoods and family members because the Aiel were in a snit about a tree would have a diametrically opposite perspective on how depressing their future history could have been. The Aiel War happened because the Aiel refused to explain themselves or the significance of their gift to the Cairhienin, refused to explain their grievance with Laman's Sin, and punished people for their geographical proximity to the man who had offended him. For a people so arrogantly proud of their mad ninja skills, you wouldn't think killing the perpetrating individual would necessitate burning down the country. These are the sorts of fucktards who, upon going out in the world to look specifically for one of their people raised among foreigners, because he is their prophesied messiah, draw down on the VERY FIRST MAN THEY MEET who fits the description! The Maidens encountered in the stedding back in tGH noted Rand's appearance and came to the same surmise about his ethnicity that even such intellectual dim bulbs as Masema and Gawyn reach, and it never seems to have occurred to them any possible relevance to their mission.
Aiel are like the moronic wizards of Harry Potter, who are mentally outclassed by those they scorn for having lesser abilities. Just as people raised as muggles adapt very swiftly & successfully to the wizarding world (i.e. Hermione & Harry, and Lily implied as well), wetlanders figure out Aiel prophecies better than Aiel do. Mat, Perrin & Elayne all leap to the obvious conclusion, but the Maidens specifically looking for him never seem to have had a clue. And just as the wizards who dedicate their lives to studying the muggle culture that surrounds and outnumbers them are still absolutely clueless, so does Gaul, apparently one of the intellectual rising stars of the Sharaad, manage to put the two largest rivers in the world between himself and the place he knows the object of his search is destined to appear.
The Aiel are so colossally stupid, that Aviendha's vision is actually better than you might think. I'd have assumed they'd all died from stepping on rakes, or drowning while trying to pour water out of their boots (if they didn't break their necks when someone advised them the instructions were written on the heels).
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*