So out of the 37 people who are stronger than Moiraine you pick 8 who might not have Talents. Remember that they can all Travel, so you are already wrong about that whole list. So 20% of the people above Moiraine have no verifiable other Talent, and 80% do.

The 13 were at a regional meeting, some of them were the best, others were not. But I get your point. There is no doubt that Aginor was highly useful to the Shadow.

Oh yes, the list of women who can "Heal". The type that makes Moghedien giggle like a paint mixer, leaving the patient half dead for weeks afterwards.

Well I do have a problem with so many of the main characters being good looking, so thanks for mentioning it. There are a lot of very beautiful channelers and average looking ones, but very few ugly ones. Hesselam is almost the only truly ugly person of any kind in this series.

I'll match your meaningless caveat too. I see a trend, not a rule...

Sure, if you want to be mean, then by all means. Considering the OP affects aging and vitality so much it's a possibility I'm open to.

Strength in a flow, strength in the Power - it's all in the same vane because it's innate power without practice, as you claim. Anyway you have gone on about sample size before and you're right, but then we shouldn't discuss anything in the series. There are maybe a few thousand channelers and far fewer who we know about, we know jack about the Power with such a small sample.

What point have you proven...? That not all channelers have all Talents? Congratulations, I'm sure that's a theory that no one has. Of course Leane is stronger than most women, and has a Talent, so there you go.

So Nynaeve has not been useful as a channeler in this series with her minimal practice and training? Apart from Healing.

I thought the Forsaken were extraordinary. Why didn't Alivia get into a "pure strength" duel with Cyndane?

Then why does Cadsuane mention it? Does she think that Alivia walks beside her and doesn't see anything. How moronic is that of Cadsuane?

And yet Cadsuane refuses to teach Alivia and channels openly around her. By all indications she finds it unlikely that a wilder will be able to pick up on her weaves.

You're having a seizure instead of seeing it from the other side. Cyndane is highly powerful and skilled with saidar. Alivia is only strong. By using an angreal she can survive her encounter with Cyndane. Therefore a strength boost provided her with 'skill'. I agree that Cyndane would have died if Alivia had her skill, but how pointless is that assertion. That's like wishing that Nynaeve had Graendal's skill.

There is no evidence to back that up. People who have no Talent for travelling use an angreal and can then Travel. Access to greater levels of saidar may provide small bridges to augment weak Talents. We have seen Verin use an angreal to improve her chances with a form of Compulsion. I'm not saying that if Egwene used Vora's wand she would be Semirhage, because you and Darius always take my examples and put them to the extremes to make me look stupid, but maybe with it she could Heal more than a bruise. Samitsu can Heal as well as a full circle... more saidar, more ability, and also proof that if you cannot Heal you can link, and then suddenly you will have a Talent with Healing (and Travelling).

I thought this was "standard" and easy among channelers?