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Some questions fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM

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This site has always been obsessed with power levels; it's amusing to see how many comments are on this post. I have never cared very much about power levels, and Dom said he never cared much either, but once we got our hands on the notes and saw all the detail on power rankings, making a list was just too tempting. So I guess the obsession rubbed off on me through Dom...

Glad you got pulled into this. While ultimately meaningless, I always found the OP strength thing a fun little debate to discuss. That said, maybe you can clarify some things we've been debating here:

1) We know a woman at level one more or less equals a man at level ++1, things like skill, etc. being equal. Does this carry on down the scale? Is there functional equivalency between levels 2 and ++2, 11 and 5, 66 and 60, and so on?

2) The female dexterity advantage: I believe there's no way RJ would have needlessly complicated things by making that advantage be on a scale, so that a stronger woman has a larger advantage than a weaker one. I think its a constant boost for all women. Did you see any hints that point to one or the other?

Thanks!

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Sortable, searchable file of Channelers darius_sedai - 28/11/2015 10:01:57 PM 3273 Views
Outstanding job Sidious - 29/11/2015 04:15:17 PM 1017 Views
Re: Outstanding job darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:53:40 PM 1008 Views
Very impressive. Well done. Cannoli - 29/11/2015 04:41:52 PM 1147 Views
Re: Very impressive. Well done. darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:54:02 PM 1046 Views
Quick Question gban007 - 30/11/2015 05:11:17 AM 1131 Views
Nope fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:44:04 AM 1150 Views
They do say it Sidious - 30/11/2015 10:32:48 AM 1341 Views
I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:21:00 PM 1004 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:02:01 AM 1138 Views
Well, it also states that there are gradations within each level too darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:26:29 PM 1177 Views
Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 06:31:05 AM 1123 Views
Here's how I see it: fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:34:54 AM 1189 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 04:22:52 PM 1153 Views
Re: I agree DomA - 02/12/2015 05:14:50 PM 1297 Views
It's always been confusing darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:00:01 PM 1263 Views
Re: It's always been confusing DomA - 02/12/2015 07:27:11 PM 1253 Views
I wholeheartedly agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:07:39 PM 1063 Views
Re: Here's how I see it: DomA - 02/12/2015 04:46:54 PM 1293 Views
Morgase Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:37:47 AM 1136 Views
I agree with you on this darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:22:22 PM 995 Views
Re: Morgase DomA - 03/12/2015 07:46:59 PM 1269 Views
I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:29:52 PM 1124 Views
Re: I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment DomA - 04/12/2015 08:41:51 PM 1050 Views
I don't know about RJ's issues, but the White Tower's waste always seemed like a minor theme there Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:05:08 PM 1087 Views
Yes the Aes Sedai are all about "the glory of being Aes Sedai" kind of like religious cults darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:47:34 PM 1022 Views
Too bad he also wrote in contingencies darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:45:26 PM 983 Views
Re: Well maybe darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 03:52:49 PM 1216 Views
Re: Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:42:37 PM 1289 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:11:42 PM 1069 Views
Re: Probably DomA - 02/12/2015 07:38:50 PM 1197 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:21:07 PM 1068 Views
Re: Indeed Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:08:03 AM 1001 Views
close enough to not debate about it darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:47:55 PM 1033 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 04:14:38 PM 1032 Views
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:43:29 PM 1064 Views
Re: I think you misunderstand what I'm saying fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 05:41:17 PM 1115 Views
um, no darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:24:31 PM 1009 Views
You two seem like Egwene's interchangeable defenders to me; it's weird to see you fighting. Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:21:23 PM 1256 Views
That's on you... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2015 09:46:51 PM 1060 Views
We've been arguing on the forums for like 10 years darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:36:55 PM 992 Views
It's Cannoli, Darius fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:53:06 PM 1021 Views
LOL *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:26:40 AM 621 Views
Some points Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:14:30 AM 1024 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:29:44 AM 1092 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength gban007 - 03/12/2015 07:22:15 AM 1008 Views
Great job fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:45:27 AM 1023 Views
Re: Great job darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:22:09 PM 1035 Views
Made a few adjustments to add some presumed minimum/maximum levels *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 04:28:13 PM 678 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:18:00 PM 1026 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 07:26:29 PM 1001 Views
Re: Some questions Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:05:01 AM 1198 Views
That's why I added another column to it darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:25:04 PM 1063 Views
Some more fionwe1987 - 01/12/2015 05:24:40 PM 1099 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 07:34:20 PM 1128 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 12:27:40 AM 1122 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 02:26:53 AM 1067 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:24:49 AM 1077 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 05:54:49 PM 1139 Views
Re: Some more Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:26:45 AM 976 Views
You said this much better than I did darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:53:57 PM 1005 Views
I think the men are much too strong Sidious - 02/12/2015 09:01:56 AM 1201 Views
Yes fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 03:06:44 PM 1041 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:45:20 PM 1124 Views
Re: Yes darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:39:43 PM 1176 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 03/12/2015 03:56:23 AM 983 Views
I think when characters quoted information from their world it gets muddled darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1043 Views
Shielding Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:19:40 AM 984 Views
I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 06:41:35 PM 973 Views
Re: I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually Sidious - 07/12/2015 12:39:54 PM 1012 Views
seriously! darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 04:55:43 PM 1021 Views
Who should defer to whom? darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 08:17:22 PM 1204 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:44:32 AM 1149 Views
I think there needs to be a pretty significant (5+ levels) difference darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:25:35 PM 1193 Views
Good job Terez - 05/12/2015 08:43:09 PM 1390 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM 1058 Views
Can't offer much Terez - 06/12/2015 12:33:29 AM 1224 Views
Cool. Hopefully Dom will see this... fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:58:39 PM 924 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 08:06:56 PM 991 Views
Then there would be some mention of it, yes/ fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:56:10 PM 926 Views
Not at all ... He clearly had a general sense of how it worked darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:28:35 AM 927 Views
Re: Some questions DomA - 07/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1218 Views
yet we also know that some things are inherently different for men and women darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 08:15:26 PM 917 Views
it probably has to do with the fact that the characters in the books are also obsessed with strength darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:58:20 PM 1055 Views
Sort of. Terez - 06/12/2015 10:30:36 PM 1382 Views
Makes sense fionwe1987 - 07/12/2015 12:38:54 AM 939 Views
Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 07:39:59 PM 1144 Views
Re: Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:33:27 AM 1014 Views
Probably something along those lines darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 03:44:48 PM 900 Views
Lifespan question (Spoiler) darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 05:42:41 PM 939 Views
Moiraine... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:28:50 AM 978 Views
That too is possible darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 03:02:12 PM 960 Views
Some random trends/data points darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 08:39:14 PM 974 Views
Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:42:51 AM 645 Views
Re: Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:18 PM 1039 Views
Not sure she can channel, though fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:22:17 PM 860 Views
Re: Not sure she can channel, though darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 04:54:37 PM 1044 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:36 PM 558 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:55 PM 593 Views
so.... Sidious - 09/12/2015 06:10:41 AM 1040 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:24:07 PM 992 Views
Yes Sidious - 09/12/2015 03:46:30 PM 952 Views
Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 04:18:50 PM 960 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:43:35 AM 931 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 06:28:49 AM 876 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 11:53:51 AM 936 Views
Sorilea has always been shown as skilled darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 04:10:37 PM 974 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 04:46:29 PM 900 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:50:17 PM 923 Views
plenty of weaker ones with notably strong Talents actually darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 06:26:03 PM 1014 Views
This is a flawed list Sidious - 11/12/2015 05:14:47 AM 915 Views
and you are just rationalizing to make your point seem plausible darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 03:10:12 PM 1034 Views
another point about Talents (unrelated to the Strength question) darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 06:06:42 PM 1117 Views
Not really Sidious - 11/12/2015 09:09:41 PM 983 Views
You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 10:13:13 PM 1002 Views
Re: You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:46:05 AM 940 Views
Let's face it a body builder ninja is sort of funny to think about darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 02:55:37 PM 1036 Views
Some quotes fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 01:18:41 AM 913 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 03:18:30 AM 987 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:19:15 AM 979 Views
Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 03:15:26 PM 939 Views
Re: Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! Sidious - 13/12/2015 11:26:17 AM 958 Views
Yes, it's a sad thing to realize that this is pretty much the end of the road darius_sedai - 14/12/2015 04:40:50 PM 924 Views
Re: Yes, it's a sad thing to realize that this is pretty much the end of the road Sidious - 15/12/2015 06:01:58 AM 954 Views
I'm actually perplexed fionwe1987 - 15/12/2015 07:19:27 AM 880 Views
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LOL ... Amen! *NM* darius_sedai - 15/12/2015 03:54:55 PM 599 Views
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Re: Yes and No DomA - 09/12/2015 10:41:32 PM 1004 Views
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Re: Aran'gar fionwe1987 - 16/12/2015 06:50:27 PM 1096 Views
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If you want to use the file you might want to grab it now before the site shuts down *NM* darius_sedai - 18/09/2016 06:45:48 PM 513 Views
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