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Then the quoted section basically says, "if comparing SOLELY strength, ignoring ALL else, the strongest man was as strong as the strongest woman." We know that is false because the male scale has levels above the female scales highest, and the rest of the entrys context consistently shows that comparison is not apples to oranges: Strength x is strength x, for male AND female, though a woman will have more skill than they would have as a man with all skills developed to the same degree.
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I suspect they are using dexterity two ways here. There's the dexterity that comes with experience, which men can also gain, and there's the inherent dexterity advantage women have. In the passage above, they're talking about acquired dexterity, so if you remove all that, the top woman and top man are pretty much the same, which lines up with what RJ said before.
View original postIt is an interesting read, but I would like to see the actual rankings of characters 
I think you're speculation is right, the only comment I have is that the end passage of the text seems to be contradicted by the following passage, which in of itself doesn't quite make sense so is likely incorrect, and whether the no shouldn't be in there, so that the dexterity does make them a match:
"Still, one-on-one, looking only at pure strength and avoiding the advantages of dexterity, length of practice and skill, the top level for a man was usually no more than a match for the top level for a woman"
I suspect they are using dexterity two ways here. There's the dexterity that comes with experience, which men can also gain, and there's the inherent dexterity advantage women have. In the passage above, they're talking about acquired dexterity, so if you remove all that, the top woman and top man are pretty much the same, which lines up with what RJ said before.
Then the quoted section basically says, "if comparing SOLELY strength, ignoring ALL else, the strongest man was as strong as the strongest woman." We know that is false because the male scale has levels above the female scales highest, and the rest of the entrys context consistently shows that comparison is not apples to oranges: Strength x is strength x, for male AND female, though a woman will have more skill than they would have as a man with all skills developed to the same degree.
This presumes that a saidin has the same effect a saidar. I wrote an post long ago on Wotmania 
that suggested that saidin and saidar had different densities and that their weights/effects. All references to strength usually have to do with the volume of the power you could hold. if they have different densities then it would require different volumes of the two powers to do the same work.
Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out!
- 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM
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Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out!
- 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM
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Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out!
- 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM
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That still would not make sense
- 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM
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It would
- 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM
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However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength"
- 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM
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Re: That still would not make sense
- 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM
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Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out!
- 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM
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I suspect...
- 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM
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Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive
- 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM
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Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive
- 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM
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Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it
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Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it
- 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM
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Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity
- 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM
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Not when you consider Morgase
- 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM
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Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense
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Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense
- 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM
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Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase
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Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase
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Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase
- 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM
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RJ did say...
- 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM
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True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge
- 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM
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Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower
- 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM
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And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice)
- 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM
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But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters
- 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM
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It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so
- 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM
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theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent?
- 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM
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Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no
- 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM
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