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However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel Send a noteboard - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM

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View original postThen the quoted section basically says, "if comparing SOLELY strength, ignoring ALL else, the strongest man was as strong as the strongest woman." We know that is false because the male scale has levels above the female scales highest, and the rest of the entrys context consistently shows that comparison is not apples to oranges: Strength x is strength x, for male AND female, though a woman will have more skill than they would have as a man with all skills developed to the same degree.
The dexterity advantage is women only, and is inherent. The section is basically saying that if you ognore knowledge, practice, and other acquired characteristics, and stick to inherent stuff alone, the strongest man and strongest woman are the same.

Particularly when they make that explicit by clarifying that their statement is "avoiding the advantages of dexterity" etc. All that is sure is that WHATEVER they meant was very poorly expressed, because we must figure it out before we even CAN decide if we agree.

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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2164 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 1057 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1171 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1144 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1172 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1287 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1238 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1360 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1175 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1250 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1164 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 1121 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1172 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 1047 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 1022 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 1069 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1387 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1175 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 1180 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 1083 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 1169 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 1006 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1478 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1344 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1286 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 984 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1257 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 1039 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 1148 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 1106 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 1081 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1297 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1340 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 1072 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 1060 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1219 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1153 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1283 Views
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