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Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM

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View original postWell, Sorilea can actually use the Source reliably ... She showed Cadsuane how to create the Traveling weave, even if she wasn't strong enough to use it herself.
Perhaps she can; Traveling requires so much of the Power her inability to do THAT proves nothing either way. That we never see her even GRASP the Source on any other occasion is suggestive though. Aiel are very self-reliant, so she would be unlikely to use it for anything she could do as easily do physically, but other Wise Women channelers frequently used the One Power, while there are no instances where Sorilea was said to use it EVEN IN BATTLE. My guess is she ranks above Morgase (who does NOT?) but only by two or three levels at most.
When Rand is kidnapped she makes a little flame too ... and Cadsuane makes a comment in there somewhere that while she may be weak, she is skilled. I suspect she's the lowest level possible that still has some functioning ability with the Source. She's also got enough strength to be at least 100 years old (she has a great-great-grandson that is old enough to consider marriage

A flame that could not even light a cigarette is a dubious counterexample: "Usage absent utility" is literal contradiction.


Morgase couldn't even reliably grasp the Source much less use it to ANY effect. Sorilea can at least achieve reaching the Source at will and can create small effects, such as a stuttering flame or the faint weave for Traveling, something Morgase would never be able to do.

Her age would be augmented to a small degree given her tiny ability, especially since WOs lead harsher lives than an AS would ... and given that Bair, who cannot Channel is equally ancient in description, yet clearly younger than Sorilea I think it's safe to say that Sorilea has some bonus longevity.

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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2041 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 942 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1052 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1029 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1060 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1102 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1116 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1234 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1058 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1123 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1038 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 994 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1040 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 927 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 898 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 982 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1266 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1052 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 987 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 950 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 970 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 896 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1297 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1203 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1064 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 864 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1068 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 946 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 964 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 970 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 943 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1180 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1151 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 950 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 863 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1098 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1022 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1156 Views
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