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That still would not make sense Joel Send a noteboard - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM

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View original postIt is an interesting read, but I would like to see the actual rankings of characters

I think you're speculation is right, the only comment I have is that the end passage of the text seems to be contradicted by the following passage, which in of itself doesn't quite make sense so is likely incorrect, and whether the no shouldn't be in there, so that the dexterity does make them a match:

"Still, one-on-one, looking only at pure strength and avoiding the advantages of dexterity, length of practice and skill, the top level for a man was usually no more than a match for the top level for a woman"


I suspect they are using dexterity two ways here. There's the dexterity that comes with experience, which men can also gain, and there's the inherent dexterity advantage women have. In the passage above, they're talking about acquired dexterity, so if you remove all that, the top woman and top man are pretty much the same, which lines up with what RJ said before.

Then the quoted section basically says, "if comparing SOLELY strength, ignoring ALL else, the strongest man was as strong as the strongest woman." We know that is false because the male scale has levels above the female scales highest, and the rest of the entrys context consistently shows that comparison is not apples to oranges: Strength x is strength x, for male AND female, though a woman will have more skill than they would have as a man with all skills developed to the same degree.
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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2129 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 1026 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1139 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1113 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1142 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1189 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1208 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1330 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1145 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1220 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1132 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 1087 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1143 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 1017 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 988 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 1042 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1355 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1144 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 1078 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 1050 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 1072 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 978 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1381 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1311 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1192 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 954 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1158 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 1006 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 1053 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 1069 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 1049 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1269 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1237 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 1043 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 961 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1185 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1123 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1254 Views
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