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That still would not make sense Joel Send a noteboard - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM

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View original postIt is an interesting read, but I would like to see the actual rankings of characters

I think you're speculation is right, the only comment I have is that the end passage of the text seems to be contradicted by the following passage, which in of itself doesn't quite make sense so is likely incorrect, and whether the no shouldn't be in there, so that the dexterity does make them a match:

"Still, one-on-one, looking only at pure strength and avoiding the advantages of dexterity, length of practice and skill, the top level for a man was usually no more than a match for the top level for a woman"


I suspect they are using dexterity two ways here. There's the dexterity that comes with experience, which men can also gain, and there's the inherent dexterity advantage women have. In the passage above, they're talking about acquired dexterity, so if you remove all that, the top woman and top man are pretty much the same, which lines up with what RJ said before.

Then the quoted section basically says, "if comparing SOLELY strength, ignoring ALL else, the strongest man was as strong as the strongest woman." We know that is false because the male scale has levels above the female scales highest, and the rest of the entrys context consistently shows that comparison is not apples to oranges: Strength x is strength x, for male AND female, though a woman will have more skill than they would have as a man with all skills developed to the same degree.
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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2117 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 1014 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1128 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1101 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1129 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1177 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1199 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1318 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1135 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1207 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1118 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 1075 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1132 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 1006 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 976 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 1030 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1344 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1134 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 1065 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 1036 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 1058 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 964 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1368 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1299 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1179 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 943 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1146 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 995 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 1041 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 1057 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 1037 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1257 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1226 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 1033 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 949 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1174 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1113 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1243 Views
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