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Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow Send a noteboard - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM

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...but I can't promise to give detail until after the Encyclopedia is out. Detail like this might or might not be included in the Encyclopedia; if it isn't, I can share at some point.

It is clear from the books that Elaida is not 82% as strong as Lanfear. Crystal clear. Two sisters like Romanda and Lelaine would then be 160% of Lanfear's strength, for example.

Yet that is what a linear 66 level list implies.

It puts Egwene at around 95% of Nynaeve's strength, and Elaida at around 92% of Egwene's strength.

So Egwene is only capable of feats requiring around 8% more power than Moiraine can channel?

Clearly this is not feasible.

So all we need are one or two clear references to relative strength buried somewhere in RJ's notes and I can unravel the entire premise.





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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4167 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up AgentApple - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1546 Views
College of Charleston library Terez - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1633 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 834 Views
Mesaana Terez - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 1615 Views
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Re: Mesaana darius_sedai - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1159 Views
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How that CAN be interpreted however, is... Shannow - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1279 Views
Sorry, no... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1313 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... Shannow - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1197 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1245 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1257 Views
Who said the Tower picked weaker channelers? There's an interesting Egwene quote... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:13:08 PM 1273 Views
Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1145 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1158 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1121 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1300 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1127 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... DomA - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1443 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1308 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 1468 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. DomA - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1415 Views
About that... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1227 Views
Re: About that... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1362 Views
Re: About that... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1139 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1234 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1282 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1171 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1326 Views
More on Aiel learners Terez - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1307 Views
Interesting. fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1221 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1323 Views
Oh... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1280 Views
Re: Oh... DomA - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 1804 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1291 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? DomA - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1437 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... Shannow - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1344 Views
Some things to consider... fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1195 Views
Re: Some things to consider... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1103 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? mogi67 - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1214 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 824 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes Terez - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1511 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1385 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... Terez - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1267 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1348 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle DomA - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1393 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1409 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1320 Views
LOL! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1399 Views
More info on Sorilea Terez - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1530 Views
This is great! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1459 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. Terez - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1305 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. MonCul - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1498 Views
Re: Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. DomA - 05/05/2014 04:25:18 PM 1291 Views
Easy answer Terez - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1232 Views
Can't argue with that! MonCul - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1364 Views
Therava/Galina Terez - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 1829 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1338 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1429 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. Terez - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1479 Views
One question... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1422 Views
yes to both *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 896 Views
Suian? MikeyMikeyMikey - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1374 Views
I see why you think that, but by the way Aes Sedai judge people on strength, I doubt it beetnemesis - 09/05/2014 03:48:21 PM 1169 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* Terez - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 771 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Dirty - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1289 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* Terez - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 816 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? beetnemesis - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1292 Views
no... Terez - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1178 Views
Wild guess... fionwe1987 - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1239 Views
One of Terez's criteria DomA - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1209 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1176 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1344 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* Terez - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 778 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1224 Views
no Terez - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1220 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... Shannow - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1288 Views
Kiruna... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1198 Views
Re: Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... DomA - 14/05/2014 03:16:24 AM 1334 Views
Re: Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1142 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1210 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1286 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? Terez - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1262 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1187 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1335 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1193 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1314 Views
Perhaps Romanda? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1186 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1012 Views
Re: Wild guess... Terez - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1289 Views
Just tell them it is Satelle Anan, or one of those women who got burned out early in life... Shannow - 12/05/2014 11:59:06 AM 1340 Views
Have you even read my subject lines? :p *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 01:05:47 PM 783 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... Shannow - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1279 Views
That was one of my guesses... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1108 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 786 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1193 Views
Lots of no *NM* Terez - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 796 Views
You're killing me. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1206 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... Terez - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1300 Views
Wild speculation Zalvera - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1208 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? Shannow - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1184 Views
Hmmm Zalvera - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1221 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... Shannow - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1108 Views
The buffer Zalvera - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1208 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1381 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1246 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1178 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1247 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1287 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1173 Views
While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Shannow - 22/05/2014 08:49:02 AM 1179 Views
Re: While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Zalvera - 22/05/2014 12:03:02 PM 1078 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1176 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1198 Views
I didn't say that Terez - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1268 Views
Re: I didn't say that DomA - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1213 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1144 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1197 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1072 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1212 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1041 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... Terez - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1168 Views
you are such a tease *NM* darius_sedai - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 614 Views
Why doesn't someone... Terez - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1388 Views
Favourite part about this post... Duke - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1405 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? beetnemesis - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1212 Views
no *NM* Terez - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 755 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1275 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! DomA - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1299 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1295 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* Terez - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 793 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 915 Views
Too specific Terez - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1270 Views
Re: Too specific Dirty - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1164 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 803 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out Sidious - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1401 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1278 Views
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