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Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow Send a noteboard - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM

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You're making the rather absurd assumption that because weaker women are coming to the Tower, there must be a worldwide drop in strength. RJ made several statements which joined together make it beyond doubt that the culling of male channelers did not reduce strength in the population, only the total number of channelers. Which makes sense. We know strength in the Power is not genetic at all. Nor does it depend on having the spark. Why would indiscriminate killing of all male sparkers result in only stronger channelers being born less frequently?

Why would the Tower pick only weaker sisters? Their selection policy actually discriminates AGAINST weaker channelers.

They have a selection bias in favour of stronger channelers. What would prevent them from finding stronger channelers, but not prevent them from finding weaker ones?

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4168 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up AgentApple - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1547 Views
College of Charleston library Terez - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1633 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 834 Views
Mesaana Terez - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 1615 Views
Re: Mesaana fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 1638 Views
Danelle Terez - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 1551 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 1616 Views
Re: Mesaana darius_sedai - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1160 Views
Bringing it all together... Shannow - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 1550 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 1563 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... Shannow - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1280 Views
Sorry, no... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1313 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... Shannow - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1198 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1245 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1258 Views
Who said the Tower picked weaker channelers? There's an interesting Egwene quote... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:13:08 PM 1273 Views
Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1145 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1158 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1121 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1300 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1128 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... DomA - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1443 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1308 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 1469 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. DomA - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1416 Views
About that... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1228 Views
Re: About that... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1362 Views
Re: About that... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1140 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1234 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1282 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1172 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1326 Views
More on Aiel learners Terez - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1307 Views
Interesting. fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1221 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1323 Views
Oh... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1281 Views
Re: Oh... DomA - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 1805 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1292 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? DomA - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1438 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... Shannow - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1345 Views
Some things to consider... fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1196 Views
Re: Some things to consider... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1104 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? mogi67 - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1214 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 825 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes Terez - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1511 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1386 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... Terez - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1268 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1348 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle DomA - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1393 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1410 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1321 Views
LOL! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1400 Views
More info on Sorilea Terez - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1531 Views
This is great! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1460 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. Terez - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1306 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. MonCul - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1498 Views
Re: Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. DomA - 05/05/2014 04:25:18 PM 1291 Views
Easy answer Terez - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1232 Views
Can't argue with that! MonCul - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1364 Views
Therava/Galina Terez - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 1829 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1339 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1429 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. Terez - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1480 Views
One question... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1423 Views
yes to both *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 897 Views
Suian? MikeyMikeyMikey - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1375 Views
I see why you think that, but by the way Aes Sedai judge people on strength, I doubt it beetnemesis - 09/05/2014 03:48:21 PM 1170 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* Terez - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 771 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Dirty - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1289 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* Terez - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 816 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? beetnemesis - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1293 Views
no... Terez - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1179 Views
Wild guess... fionwe1987 - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1240 Views
One of Terez's criteria DomA - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1210 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1177 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1345 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* Terez - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 778 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1225 Views
no Terez - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1220 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... Shannow - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1288 Views
Kiruna... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1199 Views
Re: Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... DomA - 14/05/2014 03:16:24 AM 1334 Views
Re: Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1142 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1211 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1287 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? Terez - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1262 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1188 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1336 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1194 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1314 Views
Perhaps Romanda? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1186 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1013 Views
Re: Wild guess... Terez - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1290 Views
Just tell them it is Satelle Anan, or one of those women who got burned out early in life... Shannow - 12/05/2014 11:59:06 AM 1341 Views
Have you even read my subject lines? :p *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 01:05:47 PM 783 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... Shannow - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1279 Views
That was one of my guesses... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1108 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 787 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1194 Views
Lots of no *NM* Terez - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 796 Views
You're killing me. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1206 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... Terez - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1300 Views
Wild speculation Zalvera - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1209 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? Shannow - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1185 Views
Hmmm Zalvera - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1222 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... Shannow - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1108 Views
The buffer Zalvera - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1209 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1382 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1247 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1179 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1247 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1287 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1173 Views
While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Shannow - 22/05/2014 08:49:02 AM 1179 Views
Re: While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Zalvera - 22/05/2014 12:03:02 PM 1078 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1177 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1199 Views
I didn't say that Terez - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1269 Views
Re: I didn't say that DomA - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1214 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1144 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1197 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1073 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1212 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1042 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... Terez - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1168 Views
you are such a tease *NM* darius_sedai - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 615 Views
Why doesn't someone... Terez - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1389 Views
Favourite part about this post... Duke - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1405 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? beetnemesis - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1212 Views
no *NM* Terez - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 755 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1275 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! DomA - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1299 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1296 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* Terez - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 793 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 916 Views
Too specific Terez - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1270 Views
Re: Too specific Dirty - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1165 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 803 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out Sidious - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1401 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1278 Views
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