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RJ debated with himself a bit on Sorilea's strength, assigning low-range, mid-range, and high-range strengths for her. He eventually ended up going with low-range, but still not really approaching the depths of Moiraine's post-Ghenjei strength.

The Wise Ones have more detail on strength than any other non-Aes Sedai group except maybe the Kin. These groups interacted often with the Aes Sedai, sometimes in power (not Power) struggles, and while strength wasn't a factor with the Kin and the Aiel, it was a factor for the Aes Sedai in how they perceived those women.

The debate on Sorilea is a good example of how RJ's notes go. Very, very little is set in stone until the moment when he writes it. He has tons of notes that are marked UNUSED - CAN CHANGE or some variation thereof. It was often UNUSED AS OF CROWN or whatever book; he was very haphazard about reminder protocol, but since the notes themselves are updated haphazardly, book markers were probably necessary to help keep things straight.


Interesting. And I'm glad Sorelia was kept weak. That added a ton of interest to her character, and RJ used it very well in driving Egwene's realization that the Tower shouldn't be discarding women weak in the OP.


RJ made cut-off points for certain files when they reached a certain level of obsoletion. His notes versions also appear to have evolved haphazardly. Thus you have some notes that appear to have been written pre–Winter's Heart, perhaps pre-TPOD, but he quotes a scene from WH somewhere in the notes. Maybe he wrote most of the notes post-TPOD, and the scene in question was one of the first scenes written for WH. That happens a lot. His outline for TGH makes references to assorted, non-chronological scenes from TGH that were already written, and doesn't describe those scenes in the same detail as the unwritten ones. But maybe he wrote the bulk of the notes at one time and kept updating that file (haphazardly) for a couple more books until he made new files.

All this, I think, only deepens my respect for the level of consistency in the series. Yes, he had detailed notes and assistants, but the man himself clearly had a great organizational structure in his head that he never put on paper. No wonder so many things unspooled when Brandon took over.
Random detail from those TGH notes: he described the scene with Lanfear putting on Rand's shirt in great detail. It's amusing how much thought he puts into the sex-related stuff. He loved his lesbians very much.

Lol! I remember finding that scene to be one of the sexiest in the series, for all that it is relatively tame.
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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4152 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1533 Views
College of Charleston library - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1618 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 830 Views
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Re: Not totally accurate - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1109 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1427 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1295 Views
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More on Aiel learners - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1295 Views
Interesting. - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1212 Views
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Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1277 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1423 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1337 Views
Some things to consider... - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1185 Views
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Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1202 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 821 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1501 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1378 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1259 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1332 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1384 Views
Interesting... - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1398 Views
Re: Interesting... - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1308 Views
LOL! - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1383 Views
More info on Sorilea - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1520 Views
This is great! - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1445 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1296 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1487 Views
Easy answer - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1223 Views
Can't argue with that! - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1350 Views
Therava/Galina - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 1810 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1321 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1415 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1463 Views
One question... - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1413 Views
yes to both *NM* - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 892 Views
Suian? - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1364 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 766 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1280 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 811 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1276 Views
no... - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1171 Views
Wild guess... - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1227 Views
One of Terez's criteria - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1199 Views
Hmmm... - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1161 Views
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Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 775 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1212 Views
no - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1206 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1276 Views
Kiruna... - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1185 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1132 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1195 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1273 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1251 Views
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Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1321 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1181 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1299 Views
Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1168 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1003 Views
Re: Wild guess... - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1280 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1267 Views
That was one of my guesses... - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1097 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 783 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1185 Views
Lots of no *NM* - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 793 Views
You're killing me. - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1195 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1292 Views
Wild speculation - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1200 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1177 Views
Hmmm - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1214 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1096 Views
The buffer - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1198 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1374 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1235 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1172 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1236 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1274 Views
So... - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1162 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1169 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1189 Views
I didn't say that - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1260 Views
Re: I didn't say that - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1208 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1133 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1181 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1062 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1194 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1026 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1157 Views
you are such a tease *NM* - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 610 Views
Why doesn't someone... - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1381 Views
Favourite part about this post... - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1384 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1197 Views
no *NM* - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 750 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1263 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1284 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1283 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 790 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 912 Views
Too specific - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1259 Views
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You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 797 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1383 Views
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