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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM

Lets' try revive the board a little eh?

As some of you may know, RJ's notes are now publicly viewable at the Charleston Library. Terez, of the Theoryland database fame, appropriately dug into this trove of information, and has been dribbling out minor tidbits.

Given one of the major obsessions of this board used to be the OP strength list, I'm happy to report there's extensive notes on that, and we'll probably see some form of the strength list show up in the WoT encyclopedia Harriet is compiling (due out next year most likely).

Other than that, though, there are some major shockers:

1) There was a time when RJ actually wanted to place Cadsuane higher than Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha at full potential. He changed his mind, probably because he was reminded that the Aes Sedai clearly say Elayne was the strongest woman to have come to the Tower in a thousand years.

2) Cadsuane is very close in strength to those three, however.

3) Biggest shocker: That 21 level list? It was all Aes Sedai only, and Elaida/Siuan/Moiraine topped that list (level 1). Stronger women (including Cadsuane) were marked with +x from that list.

4) The Aes Sedai list, however, was later expanded to a 33 level list. Daigian was level 33, and Elaida level 1 in this new Aes Sedai list.

5) The complete strength list has around 66 levels (maybe a little more). Moiraine after time with the Finns is about level 66. In this new list, Elaida is at level 13, Daigian at level 45, and all women stronger than Elaida occupy levels 1-12.

6) Nynaeve is indeed high up in the list. Lanfear is level 1. No confirmation, but Sharina might indeed be the same level.

7) From hints Terez has given, Alivia is not Lanfear level.

Brandon was most likely wrong about Mesaana being a much weaker Foresaken.

9) There doesn't seem to be any actually strength values for these levels, unfortunately.

10) A juicy tidbit: an "old school" Aes Sedai, who is also old, never reached her full potential. No clue who this is, but it can be worked out apparently.

Discuss!

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4560 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1899 Views
College of Charleston library - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1995 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1045 Views
Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 1985 Views
Re: Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 2051 Views
Danelle - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 1896 Views
Interesting... - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 1955 Views
Re: Mesaana - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1531 Views
Bringing it all together... - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 1921 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 1979 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1644 Views
Sorry, no... - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1659 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1526 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1592 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1600 Views
Not totally accurate - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1489 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1679 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1512 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1830 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1480 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1805 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1679 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 1929 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1735 Views
About that... - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1573 Views
Re: About that... - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1723 Views
Re: About that... - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1452 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1721 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1594 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1516 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1675 Views
More on Aiel learners - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1643 Views
Interesting. - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1570 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1667 Views
Oh... - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1598 Views
Re: Oh... - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 2146 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1708 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1832 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1716 Views
Some things to consider... - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1560 Views
Re: Some things to consider... - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1471 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1564 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1035 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1897 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1756 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1595 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1700 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1726 Views
Interesting... - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1751 Views
Re: Interesting... - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1679 Views
LOL! - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1771 Views
More info on Sorilea - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1875 Views
This is great! - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1805 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1646 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1911 Views
Easy answer - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1625 Views
Can't argue with that! - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1756 Views
Therava/Galina - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2205 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1697 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1820 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1806 Views
One question... - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1750 Views
yes to both *NM* - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1099 Views
Suian? - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1718 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 988 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1650 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 1003 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1648 Views
no... - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1525 Views
Wild guess... - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1559 Views
One of Terez's criteria - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1514 Views
Hmmm... - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1535 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1723 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 978 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1582 Views
no - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1620 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1667 Views
Kiruna... - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1566 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1474 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1557 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1641 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1605 Views
- 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1527 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1675 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1531 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1629 Views
Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1667 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1347 Views
Re: Wild guess... - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1664 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1614 Views
That was one of my guesses... - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1388 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 985 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1531 Views
Lots of no *NM* - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 1011 Views
You're killing me. - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1535 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1634 Views
Wild speculation - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1551 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1521 Views
Hmmm - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1553 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1458 Views
The buffer - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1591 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1715 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1589 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1539 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1604 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1655 Views
So... - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1514 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1519 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1534 Views
I didn't say that - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1588 Views
Re: I didn't say that - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1577 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1488 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1740 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1441 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1676 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1382 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1534 Views
you are such a tease *NM* - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 815 Views
Why doesn't someone... - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1740 Views
Favourite part about this post... - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1751 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1549 Views
no *NM* - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 971 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1635 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1663 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1674 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 1005 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1108 Views
Too specific - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1607 Views
Re: Too specific - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1522 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 1006 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1764 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1779 Views

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