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Its true, but RJ should get some blame Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/02/2013 03:56:20 PM

Most people think that the series went into a nosedive after book 7, and it's probably true. The pace was abysmal compared to the previous books.

I felt that a lot of the plots were drawn out unnecessarily. I am a "visceral Perrin hater" so perhaps its unfair, but it really did seem like the most unbelievably infinite quest to find Faile, with lots of meaningless rants, and equally loathsome Faile PoV's to mirror it. Add to that the soul-destroying quest to gain the Lion Throne (Elayne 'cleverly' dealing with belligerent nobility set against the backdrop of the imminent end of the world) and the endless quest for Egwene to become Amyrlin (Salidar seemed to move at Shayol Ghul time speed), and you've got a lot of wasted pages. I personally recall my disbelief at the end of each book that the Tower was not united yet again.

And I'm not going to mention CoT too much. I've always said its a disgrace that we were subjected to that. The idea of subjecting us to, among others,retrospective PoV's of the Cleansing, was just the ultimate low point of the series.

So yeah, Brandon screwed it up, but so did RJ. Don't believe me? Go look at people's expectations prior to each book and see how their expectations carried forward as each new book came out. The blurbs of each book were often wrong in their own content i.e. Egwene al'Vere must hurry to unite the Tower etc. The latter half of the series assumed an irresponsible, glacial pace that forced the original writer himself to say that come hell or high water, he'll finish with AMOL no matter what. It seems even he lost control of the series.
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So, am I the only one who kind of liked the whole Androl/Pevara plot? beetnemesis - 31/01/2013 02:30:15 PM 2264 Views
It was extremely irritating... Shannow - 31/01/2013 02:34:32 PM 1307 Views
Re: It was extremely irritating... muppet - 31/01/2013 02:47:46 PM 1432 Views
It felt like a plot tacked on as a vanity by Sanderson Joar Nessosin - 31/01/2013 02:49:09 PM 1088 Views
Indeed... Shannow - 31/01/2013 02:58:50 PM 1119 Views
Re: Indeed... muppet - 31/01/2013 03:05:44 PM 1223 Views
I kind of always thought RJ intended the minor characters to be bland darius_sedai - 03/02/2013 12:00:33 AM 938 Views
I'd say more like Mistborn than Harry Potter *NM* beetnemesis - 01/02/2013 02:53:30 PM 501 Views
I feel the same about Mat's luck powers. You talk about plot armor, his is a plot bulldozer. Bookwyrm - 01/02/2013 12:53:58 AM 985 Views
You're not the only one who liked it. I thought the mind meld was cool. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 31/01/2013 02:39:48 PM 870 Views
No I loved it too. *NM* Dreadlord - 31/01/2013 02:43:31 PM 476 Views
I liked it. Most of the whining about is hilarious. Zeratul - 31/01/2013 03:01:10 PM 1074 Views
I hated it because it reeked of sanderson pandering to "internet humour" for lack of a better term. ImmanuelXavier - 31/01/2013 04:47:54 PM 1023 Views
Yep. I know what you mean, though it's hard to exactly quantify. muppet - 31/01/2013 04:49:12 PM 992 Views
I could really use an example here beetnemesis - 01/02/2013 02:56:50 PM 971 Views
I enjoyed it Ryan - 31/01/2013 04:37:42 PM 862 Views
It wasn't bad. However, it took away time from characters that readers were more invested in. *NM* Tom - 31/01/2013 04:52:25 PM 487 Views
Yeah, that's a legitimate complaint. *NM* beetnemesis - 01/02/2013 02:57:12 PM 484 Views
It was a fairly bad execution of some good ideas DomA - 31/01/2013 05:01:59 PM 1479 Views
That one line characterizes the last two books of WoT generally. *NM* Tom - 31/01/2013 08:52:06 PM 506 Views
He probably didn't have enough time to learn the characters completely Voscaia Sedai - 01/02/2013 01:45:11 PM 1034 Views
Re: He probably didn't have enough time to learn the characters completely DomA - 02/02/2013 04:48:45 PM 1192 Views
Well said... I would have waited for a better end product *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2013 05:50:16 PM 477 Views
I 100% agree with everything you said here! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2013 02:16:56 PM 464 Views
Pretty much. But I think significant blame should be laid at Jordan's feet for his abysmal pacing. Ghavrel - 02/02/2013 10:48:06 AM 1047 Views
Yeah, yeah.. it's the f*cking silk washing's scene's fault DomA - 02/02/2013 05:59:30 PM 1326 Views
Damn you are on a roll ... Nicely said. *NM* darius_sedai - 03/02/2013 12:46:57 AM 565 Views
Its true, but RJ should get some blame Sidious - 05/02/2013 03:56:20 PM 1036 Views
Certainly RJ deserves some of the blame. But pacing issues were not the only issue with AMOL darius_sedai - 10/02/2013 02:45:02 PM 928 Views
i enjoyed this subplot tacotime20 - 05/02/2013 05:41:23 PM 1307 Views
Not the only one..I really enjoyed reading their story. *NM* Simon - 01/02/2013 02:05:21 PM 549 Views
It was my favourite subplot *NM* Sidious - 01/02/2013 02:17:26 PM 736 Views
I liked it more than reading about Perrin. And seeing Mat butchered even further. *NM* Deadsy - 03/02/2013 02:28:42 AM 586 Views
I really liked this plot-line! *NM* aragornital - 03/02/2013 07:23:48 AM 456 Views
I liked it, but that's because... orius - 10/02/2013 09:14:44 AM 1118 Views
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